CT2: Early rough translation

[Tatsumasa]

well yes but the dark wizard skill doing fail all the time.

necro/sh have death spike lvl 2 with power 65 .

we will have death spike lvl 13 with power 65.

so no fails...

at least you can OE it with max lvl


Mfg Tatsu

[langlang]

If the exp amount vitality will boost is proportionate to the level of the character this could be decent.

It is about 21 mil per 1% at L80 (1.5 hours in an average group), if I could spend 1/3rd the time it takes to clear that (30 mins) that would be great.

i am excited about ct2 as much as any other fan, and while some of the changes are obviously good, playing ncsoft games for the past 9 years makes me a skeptic when some things sound too good to be true :)

[luckysheep]

at least you can OE it with max lvl


Mfg Tatsu

yes but except of this ,think about it you will be the summoner with the chance to do something without summon.

is not bad 450-500 dmg (without buffs) every hit.

when ES and WL will try to save their lifes...PS will kick some ashes :P

[Kalietrop]

no its just unbuffed rate went up by alot, full buffed rate is still gonna be the same I guess, a bit like fighters crit you wont go from 1% crit to 60% but from 10% to 60%

Well then maybe COV will be better for nukers, they wont need to m.crit rate from PoWater

[Tatsumasa]

hm...Diego, did you got any patch notes about the Death Spike thing for PS? i just watched the Screenshot with PS who got Dead Spike lvl 13 with power 65 right...but could it be that its just a augmention, since lvl 80 LS put lvl 13 skills on the weapon? i mean if its Death Spike, then it cant be lvl 13 and have different damage then the normal one, no? must be either a new skill with same look or i dont know...
but the thing is that it dont look like a usual augmention skill...confused

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/1403/shot00004zc7hf3.th.jpg (http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot00004zc7hf3.jpg)

Mfg Tatsu

[Mugi]

well yes but the dark wizard skill doing fail all the time.

necro/sh have death spike lvl 2 with power 65 .

we will have death spike lvl 13 with power 65.

so no fails...

Failur rate have nothing to do with M.atk nor does it have anything to do with skill power.

What it have to do with is the level of the skill when it was obtianeed vs the level of the target.

This is prety much how all magic works and a few physical skills such as Spoil.

OE skills increase the level as well, every 3 level of OE = 1 gained level of the skill.

[smaili]

hm...Diego, did you got any patch notes about the Death Spike thing for PS? i just watched the Screenshot with PS who got Dead Spike lvl 13 with power 65 right...but could it be that its just a augmention, since lvl 80 LS put lvl 13 skills on the weapon? i mean if its Death Spike, then it cant be lvl 13 and have different damage then the normal one, no? must be either a new skill with same look or i dont know...
but the thing is that it dont look like a usual augmention skill...confused

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/1403/shot00004zc7hf3.th.jpg (http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot00004zc7hf3.jpg)

Mfg Tatsu

he has augment skill on f12

[Tatsumasa]

he has augment skill on f12

huh okay, so gl to all PS :P

Mfg Tatsu

[luckysheep]

Failur rate have nothing to do with M.atk nor does it have anything to do with skill power.

What it have to do with is the level of the skill when it was obtianeed vs the level of the target.

This is prety much how all magic works and a few physical skills such as Spoil.

OE skills increase the level as well, every 3 level of OE = 1 gained level of the skill.

well i didnt mention about matk...but about the lvl of the skill ..anyway if the screenshot is fake so we cant talk anymore about that.

[luckysheep]

huh okay, so gl to all PS :P

Mfg Tatsu

what do you mean?

[Mithias]

well i didnt mention about matk...but about the lvl of the skill ..anyway if the screenshot is fake so we cant talk anymore about that.

how do you know its fake? Looks real to me, unless I missed something.

[luckysheep]

how do you know its fake? Looks real to me, unless I missed something.

anyway and to be true is lvl 13 :)

[langlang]

It's kinda weird though. Are they going to give ps a level 1 death spike at 44 with power less than their lvl 20-35 nukes? Full power death spike, as said before, on a sh is power 108. On a sh, deathspike starts at level 44 with power 58.

[bladequeen]

meh?
its not like there a whole lot of ps anyway
i can probably count all the ps on bartz with one hand and thats if they all stick around for another 6+ months

[davidemo]

This new update i called Gracia, no? but... any news on Gracia? xD screenshots?

[TehPwn]

You woudnt play a PS as a nuker just cuz he has a nuke, you'd combine the two and be a nuker + melee DD. (Almost like a Necro, just... far far better with the ability to heal/etc)

I woudnt touch the MP regen summon personally. Summoners are already capable of extremely fast leveling when done right. Just makes it worse in my opinion.

Seeds arent a issue as I dont think anyone has fully resisted up armor (specially not to Dark) in NA, so if you've got the ATR, you dont need to boost it anymore. Only thing you'd really miss would be Dark Vortex, but.. really.. who cares, you've got a summon who does far more damage then Vortex+Nuke vs Nuke+Summon.

Ofc talking purely PvE. PvP I'd still rather have the nuker personally, but woudnt be a SH regardless in that case.

Ok people. Please realize what you are saying. There is no MP regen summon to touch.

PHANTOM SUMMONER GETS NO MP REGEN SUMMON.

They get a 30% summon with VR. A 10% Summon with Corpse Burst and shit. A 90% Servitor with a nuke. A leve 56 Servitor with a heal.

Only Warlocks and Elemental Summoners get servitors with Master Recharge skill. Kat the Cat, and Boxer the Unicorn.

And even then, Death Spike at level 76 is 19 MP less cost than others main nuke. It's same power as other nukers (just doesn't Enchant for Power as well). Summoners can go with the same setups as Nukers, which means that below level 78, a Phantom Summoner can achieve the same nuking prowess as a Spellhowler using Dark Attacks.

The only thing that would steer one away from using it as a nuker would be the fact that Summoners don't get Higher Mana Gain past D Grade.

But no one gives a shit about PS Recharge servitors, because they don't have one and never have.

Unless I'm missing something... In which case, please enlighten me.

Also...

if you summon a Soulless you wont have enough mp to nuke cuze it debuffs that drain your mana enough. so you have to decide

Learn to read. Those notes state that the MP dot on soulless is removed.

EDIT: Oh I see it's half the power of Necro/SH Death Spike. Basically small Shadow Spark upgrade (without the long reuse).

[zwsdd]

why you think that power of necro and sh death spike will remain 108? 13 lvl - is max level for death spike. imho sh nerfed and necro killed.

[luckysheep]

well but if you use shadow spark 90% is failure i dont think so death spike will be like this.

[Diego Vargas]

why you think that power of necro and sh death spike will remain 108? 13 lvl - is max level for death spike. imho sh nerfed and necro killed.

One can only hope considering their pet takes dark attribute off the staff.

[langlang]

well but if you use shadow spark 90% is failure i dont think so death spike will be like this.

the level 35 over hit nukes do not fail.

[xsss]

the level 35 over hit nukes do not fail.

sometimes i wonder if ppl have seen any ES in oly...
btw, does Shadow flare fail? i used to have a lowbie SH for cleaning bots, the 2 overhit nukes didnt fail.

[Jonne]

PS will still suck in everything except the oly. And maybe 1vs1s in general

[Maya]

unless necro gets higher lvl serviteur heal and cov/pof for its summon I doubt NC will nerf necro's death spike, cause in other ways necro will become extremelly hard class to level. In pvp aspect I do not know, necro can be played in 3-4 different ways and nerfing death spike wont be something to cry about.

[luckysheep]

sometimes i wonder if ppl have seen any ES in oly...
btw, does Shadow flare fail? i used to have a lowbie SH for cleaning bots, the 2 overhit nukes didnt fail.

well shadow flare doesnt fail..but yes shadow spark fail all the time.

unless if my PS has shadow flare and i dont know :P
except of this the reuse time is too big...

[Tatsumasa]

EDIT: Oh I see it's half the power of Necro/SH Death Spike. Basically small Shadow Spark upgrade (without the long reuse).

yeah learn to read...

Mfg Tatsu