CT2: Early rough translation

[Azulenia]

And gloom, abyss, silence, vortex are exactly the same as cov on summon, buffs on summon, high lvl summon heal and 79 lvl summon.

Necro is not neither a fkin summoner not somekind of a debuffer but a nuker. Read the damn describtion when u party with a necro and u ll realise it is the same as any other nuker. Please no more "NC considers necro as a summoner", cause according to NC necro is a nuker.

@Azelunia. I agree but getting to 80 with necro is not either easy nor cheap. I cant level recently cause the price of S crystals is crazy. I am giving 1.3 -1.4 k per shot including cursed bone. Other nukers give arround 1k that is ok, but they buy their elemental stones for 2,3 or 4 times cheaper than the dark stones and getting close to the dmg of the other nukers is not easy. And the dmg dealing do matters when u lvl a nuker.

The 2 thinks necro has more than other nukers is summon with tp and gloom. The 2 thinks other nukers has more than the necro is usefull vortex and slug/crusher/buster.
curse death link at a little lower than half hp should do around the same dmg as a normal nuke. it's not too risky, and doesn't take cursed bones :)

[Zestos]

curse death link at a little lower than half hp should do around the same dmg as a normal nuke. it's not too risky, and doesn't take cursed bones :)

have you tried that at WOA angels or MOS? Most high level group spots are too dangerous.

1. you can't use vortex or you'll get hp back
2. you're gonna die....a lot. lol

[Azulenia]

have you tried that at WOA angels or MOS? Most high level group spots are too dangerous.

1. you can't use vortex or you'll get hp back
2. you're gonna die....a lot. lol
mos the first rooms are pretty easy and predictable imo, just go to one without the suicide mobs and u should be fine.

i mean, i dont even play necro myself, it was just a suggestion to save adena :>

[Glav]

The tank 'fighting stance' is retarded as hell. We don't get any passives for damage with duals/2h's, and we get bonuses for shields. Lots of bonuses for shields. The best ones too. Debufs, disables, and defense. Boosts to our sword/blunt mastery? I'd be up for that. How about a melee damage skill for our 1h'ers, that we've been asking for since day one? How about continue to improve our resistance against magic?

It's simple.

It's not being added for pvp or even high end gameplay. It's being added to make it easier for tanks to solo up to S grade. Anyone who's already up can ignore it.

[bladequeen]

And gloom, abyss, silence, vortex are exactly the same as cov on summon, buffs on summon, high lvl summon heal and 79 lvl summon.

Necro is not neither a fkin summoner not somekind of a debuffer but a nuker. Read the damn describtion when u party with a necro and u ll realise it is the same as any other nuker. Please no more "NC considers necro as a summoner", cause according to NC necro is a nuker.

@Azelunia. I agree but getting to 80 with necro is not either easy nor cheap. I cant level recently cause the price of S crystals is crazy. I am giving 1.3 -1.4 k per shot including cursed bone. Other nukers give arround 1k that is ok, but they buy their elemental stones for 2,3 or 4 times cheaper than the dark stones and getting close to the dmg of the other nukers is not easy. And the dmg dealing do matters when u lvl a nuker.

The 2 thinks necro has more than other nukers is summon with tp and gloom. The 2 thinks other nukers has more than the necro is usefull vortex and slug/crusher/buster.

so let me get this straight, you want a 2k+ nuke because youre twice as hard to kill as any other nuker?

ok, make glads as fast as silver rangers please

[TehPwn]

mos the first rooms are pretty easy and predictable imo, just go to one without the suicide mobs and u should be fine.

i mean, i dont even play necro myself, it was just a suggestion to save adena :>

No, it's not predictable. The mobs cast spells. The Angels Surrender to Holy which makes them hit very hard. The mobs are agro, and most of them are in close proximity meaning your chances of getting more than one is extremely high unless you can kill them in a couple/few shots - the spawn rate is high. 900 HP is like 5 seconds of getting attacked by 2 mobs there, and it's hard to outdrain them because they hit hard as hell and fast enough. Elixirs can only save your ass once every 5 minutes and LOL @ 110k per QHP.

Future update will make CDLing even more difficult for say, places like Hot Springs. Only mobs of same type are social there, but with the changes they are making that cause mobs to respawn faster the faster you kill them - the chances of getting an add will increase exponentially. People will run a larger chance of a mob spawning next to a mob and having the second shot agro that new mob.

It's also not a rare occurrence to have CDL fail 2x on a mob (for 1 dmg either). It happened to me today at least 4 times (that I can recall).

CDLing with an S Grade weapon (assume 3 shotting at HS) is 1.3k x 3 (SBSpS) and the minute you start using Elixir of Mental Strength and/or GMHP (like 60k each), you are running on a deficit by default. That's not counting the amount of failures you get in a factorable grinding session (can be in the triple digits).

Yea, I know Dark Attribute on the weapon can help, but Dark/Divine Stones are like 60-100M depending on how people feel, and Blessing of Darkness is like 500k-1M (again, depending on how people feel).

[TehPwn]

so let me get this straight, you want a 2k+ nuke because youre twice as hard to kill as any other nuker?

ok, make glads as fast as silver rangers please

Please at least try not to be retarded.

And isn't your sub a Necro?

[SandsOftime]

And gloom, abyss, silence, vortex are exactly the same as cov on summon, buffs on summon, high lvl summon heal and 79 lvl summon.

Necro is not neither a fkin summoner not somekind of a debuffer but a nuker. Read the damn describtion when u party with a necro and u ll realise it is the same as any other nuker. Please no more "NC considers necro as a summoner", cause according to NC necro is a nuker.

@Azelunia. I agree but getting to 80 with necro is not either easy nor cheap. I cant level recently cause the price of S crystals is crazy. I am giving 1.3 -1.4 k per shot including cursed bone. Other nukers give arround 1k that is ok, but they buy their elemental stones for 2,3 or 4 times cheaper than the dark stones and getting close to the dmg of the other nukers is not easy. And the dmg dealing do matters when u lvl a nuker.

The 2 thinks necro has more than other nukers is summon with tp and gloom. The 2 thinks other nukers has more than the necro is usefull vortex and slug/crusher/buster.

Stop whining, you have a lot teh win buttons and you want more? Next time then you're going to complain about how necro is bad please take into consider silence(well this one is same as SH), doom, anchor, abys, tp and summon with stun.

imo necro should be some kind of debufer(almost as it is now) not a nuker, so dark wortex slug is not needed, because they arleady has a lot of skill that can be used, ofc there're a lot of lame necros that do not uses curse of abys and other stuff...

[Moandor]

Little tip about necro xping , grab a SE 74+ and go to toi 10 , root + CDL + recharge is amazing xp gain :)

[bladequeen]

Please at least try not to be retarded.

And isn't your sub a Necro?

no it isnt

and retarded about what, when your man is up it takes me twice as many shots to kill you
what? kill the man first? it would still take me at least a tss and dss to kill yer man at which point you could get off at least 2 nukes on me if not more or any debuff you might wanna toss at me

and you need a 2k+ nuke why?
so you can xp? dont make me laugh, slug/vortex/buster have shitty reuse times

[Maya]

cdl is useless nuke especially in MoS... with gloom + vortex add + arcane power u do more dmg than with cdl. The only good place u can use cdl usefull is HS which is like 74-77 lvling spot. Cdling the first room is possible but it is damn slow exp. With not cdl I can easily handle the whole MoS library which is like 2-3 times faster exp than cdling in the first room. The change in spawn at Gracia should be a good thing if death spike do not get nerfed.

Moandor, toi 10 gives 2 times less exp on 79 than on 78.

I am bitching about the pve part who ever said I am bitching. In pvp the class is very good, but if death spike is going to be nerfed then necro needs smth to pve with...also if the nerf is true we need something to compensate moving out our main nuke from our bars.

And again to the person with the debuffer theory- necro is a nuker according to NC for now.

[SandsOftime]

Necro has ~10 debuffs so its more like debuffer then a nuker, and i think new dew team is trying to make that necro would be a debuffer, not a nuker, because slugs/crushers and other stuff os only for pure nukers.

[Nya]

cdl is useless nuke especially in MoS... with gloom + vortex add + arcane power u do more dmg than with cdl. The only good place u can use cdl usefull is HS which is like 74-77 lvling spot. Cdling the first room is possible but it is damn slow exp. With not cdl I can easily handle the whole MoS library which is like 2-3 times faster exp than cdling in the first room. The change in spawn at Gracia should be a good thing if death spike do not get nerfed.

Moandor, toi 10 gives 2 times less exp on 79 than on 78.

I am bitching about the pve part who ever said I am bitching. In pvp the class is very good, but if death spike is going to be nerfed then necro needs smth to pve with...also if the nerf is true we need something to compensate moving out our main nuke from our bars.

And again to the person with the debuffer theory- necro is a nuker according to NC for now.


summon your summon, get melee party and go xp like most melees have to

[Toker]

summon your summon, get melee party and go xp like most melees have to

It's much easier to load up my own party then rely on getting one.

[Moandor]

Necro has ~10 debuffs so its more like debuffer then a nuker, and i think new dew team is trying to make that necro would be a debuffer, not a nuker, because slugs/crushers and other stuff os only for pure nukers.

So we must debuff mobs to death ? :)

Maya ToI 10 is best to 77

[SandsOftime]

So we must debuff mobs to death ? :)

Maya ToI 10 is best to 77

Well atm not, but maybe they'll make smth like that.

[Dalatreyu]

Someone saw the crystal needed to buy a B grade weapon?

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/9225/ch8008kj5.jpg

It's really cheap...
Kris=579 B-cry+1737 C-cry
B-cry=14K*579
C-cry=3K*1737
------------
13,317,000

Please say to me if I am wrong.

[Jingoea]

mana drain's removed from soulless.

ya I made that post before it was updated..


I have no clue what the hell is going on with L2.. This update seems so fake lol...

[SandsOftime]

Someone saw the crystal needed to buy a B grade weapon?

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/9225/ch8008kj5.jpg

It's really cheap...
Kris=579 B-cry+1737 C-cry
B-cry=14K*579
C-cry=3K*1737
------------
13,317,000

Please say to me if I am wrong.

No, you;re not wrong, because atm b gr is nothing, and its prices are way to high for new players.

[xsss]

Someone saw the crystal needed to buy a B grade weapon?

It's really cheap...
Kris=579 B-cry+1737 C-cry
B-cry=14K*579
C-cry=3K*1737
------------
13,317,000

Please say to me if I am wrong.
You are. B crystal prices won't be so high at all.

[Ingwar]

So we must debuff mobs to death ? :)

Maya ToI 10 is best to 77

Yes and healers need to heal mobs to death..

[Moandor]

Yes and healers need to heal mobs to death..

No, yr party members should expect from u to heal them, so they dont die :)

[Nya]

And your party members should expect from you to debuff the mobs, so they are easier to kill and they dont die...Debuffer :P

[dave2041]

Someone saw the crystal needed to buy a B grade weapon?

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/9225/ch8008kj5.jpg

It's really cheap...
Kris=579 B-cry+1737 C-cry
B-cry=14K*579
C-cry=3K*1737
------------
13,317,000

Please say to me if I am wrong.

hello cheap bss/bsps

shame this update is 6 months +/- away :<

[Kalimah]

even cheap A crys with dual dama :) didnt rly get it, will A grade be aviable the same way ? I read A grade will be aviable but im not sure if its in shadow or normal version.