CT2: Early rough translation

[Jonne]

Necros were a much better debuffer than nuker back when the resists were strong, but once CT1 came out they are back to being good nukers.


Actually with CT1 necros got shafted even more into a debuffer compared to other nukers.
First of all because getting Dark stones is hard compared to water, fire & wind. Second because StS, MM & AM all got a lvl 79 slug/crusher/buster skill which gives them a hell a lot more fire power than what a necro has.

An ideal nuker group has one necro for gloom. The rest of the nukers should be a mixture of MM, StS & AM

[carNage]

Yes but it will require a lot of skill to maneuver with an archer. Nowadays archers just sit like dumb cunts and shoot their arrows, because it really doesn't matter if they're at 40 range or 1100 range. In ct2 it will and it will make a lot of difference.

well the damage on range does only change for physical skills not normal attacks.. if L2 hasent changed alot from c3 archers do most of their dmg from normal shots.

[Toker]

That person is wrong.

Transfer pain only works if the damage you recieve is < the amount of HP your servitor has.

If an archer crits you twice for 5k and on the second crit the servitor has < 5k HP (the case for unbuffed/orc-buffed corrupted/cursed man) you will get 2 hit by said archer (that's only a rough illustration to get the point across).

And where did we say anything about Necros sucking in PvP. Maya was speaking mostly from a PvE standpoint and so was I.

I can rape you in PvP anyday, just send me a PM in game.

1v1 ???

sorry but that are the archers from your alliance who play from like 3 years and still suck. I like to see how many people will put full elemental resist on their armors, this is kinda expensive... not to mention that the most of the people will put elemental stones only for their class based oly and will try to max just 1 resist.

What else do you have left to spend $$ on? You can always farm them too.
I know I have very little left to get in this game

[Crystine1]

Actually with CT1 necros got shafted even more into a debuffer compared to other nukers.
First of all because getting Dark stones is hard compared to water, fire & wind. Second because StS, MM & AM all got a lvl 79 slug/crusher/buster skill which gives them a hell a lot more fire power than what a necro has.

An ideal nuker group has one necro for gloom. The rest of the nukers should be a mixture of MM, StS & AM
Necros are still good nukers. One thing you arent considering is that if you get 150 dark on your mace your surrender still works. Surrender is useless to all the other nukers. Getting 150 dark is harder, but it's only takes more time. Also, I'm sure there will be alot more people with fire/water resist armors than dark resist.

[TenMohican]

I have resist greek armor.

im pretty much invincible on some servers.

[langlang]

you pretty much need dark resist armor for beleth's tower... nobody has it now but they will.

[[=> Pure <=]]

Shadow Knight = ? soulless ? :roll:

[Jonne]

I have resist greek armor.

im pretty much invincible on some servers.

It's actually called +150 Turkish. Guaranteed to rape any Greek ppl

[Jonne]

Necros are still good nukers. One thing you arent considering is that if you get 150 dark on your mace your surrender still works. Surrender is useless to all the other nukers. Getting 150 dark is harder, but it's only takes more time. Also, I'm sure there will be alot more people with fire/water resist armors than dark resist.


Gloom helps it to level things a bit, but a necro is still horribly under gunned because it doesn't have a 140 power vortex and a slug/crusher/buster.

[TenMohican]

necros dont need another slug/crusher/buster. Imo they should get a 1200 range A0E hex nuke since there is soo much armor stacking/archer resist buffs available

Also slug/crusher/busters need to be tuned down slightly as mages have to much survivability in contrast to their killing power.

[Crystine1]

Gloom helps it to level things a bit, but a necro is still horribly under gunned because it doesn't have a 140 power vortex and a slug/crusher/buster.
I'm not trying to argue that necros are better nukers (pure dmg) than sps/SH because they arent. They aren't ALOT worse though and combined with anchor/extra silence/mass banes overall I consider them a better overall class.

[chongchewyong]

I've heard that people in Finland feel so depressed because the sun is not visible in most days of a year, and that's why suicide is their national sport. Look what i found:

Suicide Rates (per 100,000), by country, year, and gender.
Country Year Males Females
FINLAND 00 34.6 10.9
GREECE 99 5.7 1.6


So being Finnish has to be sad, but being a Finnish faggot is definitely the worst thing :hf_cry2:

[Whispred]

I've heard that people in Finland feel so depressed because the sun is not visible in most days of a year, and that's why suicide is their national sport. Look what i found:

Suicide Rates (per 100,000), by country, year, and gender.
Country Year Males Females
FINLAND 00 34.6 10.9
GREECE 99 5.7 1.6


So being Finnish has to be sad, but being a Finnish faggot is definitely the worst thing :hf_cry2:
per 100.00

1. Lithuania 2005 68.1 12.9 38.6
2. Belarus 2003 63.3 10.3 35.1
3. Russia 2004 61.6 10.7 34.3
4. Kazakhstan 2003 51.0 8.9 29.2
5. Slovenia 2003 45.0 12.0 28.1

My country ^^

[Jonne]

I've heard that people in Finland feel so depressed because the sun is not visible in most days of a year, and that's why suicide is their national sport. Look what i found:

Suicide Rates (per 100,000), by country, year, and gender.
Country Year Males Females
FINLAND 00 34.6 10.9
GREECE 99 5.7 1.6


So being Finnish has to be sad, but being a Finnish faggot is definitely the worst thing :hf_cry2:

Greece, the country that passed its prime 2000 years ago.

[Charmille]

Not to mention that most countries dont hold so good records about the cause of death and suicides in some countries are not marked as such in the records since it is more of a taboo. Also, a post mortem is something that isnt done in many countries unless a crime is suspected ^^

Finland just decided it cant turn refugees back to Greece since the legal system of Greece is severely lacking and the rights of the refugees cannot be quaranteed.

[Blitzball]

we are full of finnish and swedish girls at summer so we must rule at sex.

[Ant0n1z]

Finland just decided it cant turn refugees back to Greece since the legal system of Greece is severely lacking and the rights of the refugees cannot be quaranteed.

and Norway did a similar thing about refugees AFAIK.
(can't blame them though)

[TehPwn]

Necros are still good nukers. One thing you arent considering is that if you get 150 dark on your mace your surrender still works. Surrender is useless to all the other nukers. Getting 150 dark is harder, but it's only takes more time. Also, I'm sure there will be alot more people with fire/water resist armors than dark resist.

Surrender is not useless, it aids in landing debuffs like Frost Bolt, Ice Vortex, and helps in reducing resisted/failed nukes.

[Einherjar]

how did a thread about ct2 get to suicide rates of 3rd world countries?

l2blah - where the norm is boring shit and the freaky is hot topic !

[Osaka]

how did a thread about ct2 get to suicide rates of 3rd world countries?

l2blah - where the norm is boring shit and the freaky is hot topic !

it's called evolution.

[Face]

well the damage on range does only change for physical skills not normal attacks.. if L2 hasent changed alot from c3 archers do most of their dmg from normal shots.

something makes me think instead of nerfing dmg from long range it will be :
100% dmg on range and boosted damage on close range.

[Blitzball]

something makes me think instead of nerfing dmg from long range it will be :
100% dmg on range and boosted damage on close range.

you actually used your brain?

it should be less dmg the closer you are to the target,at least for normal attacks.cause the arrow need to accelerate a bit to deal dmg and from close distance this shouldnt happen.

EDIT:where did you see that dmg decreases only on skills?

[boo]

you actually used your brain?

it should be less dmg the closer you are to the target,at least for normal attacks.cause the arrow need to accelerate a bit to deal dmg and from close distance this shouldnt happen.

EDIT:where did you see that dmg decreases only on skills?

you do know that arrows actually slow down due to air friction ? An arrow hits it's max speed the moment it detaches from the bow as there's no more force applied to it afterwards for it to be able to accelerate further.

take bullets for instance: a bullet shot from 200m away will go through your skull but a bullet shot at point blank would splatter your brains all over the wall.

[langlang]

Guns are not effective weapons at melee range in real life. Point blank =/= always mean melee range. A bow even less so than a gun. Gl notching an arrow while someone is punching you in the face.

[boo]

Guns are not effective weapons at melee range in real life. Point blank =/= always mean melee range. A bow even less so than a gun. Gl notching an arrow while someone is punching you in the face.

I'm pretty sure a bullet hitting you at melee range is more effective in terms of damage than one hitting from 200 meters away.