PDA

View Full Version : CT2: Early rough translation


Pages : 1 2 3 4 5 6 [7] 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21

Kalimah
04-11-2008, 02:29 PM
debuff is what makes necro a necro tho :/ dunno how u guys play the class but nukes are just secondary to me :/ until u got 150 dark at least :D

boo
04-11-2008, 02:29 PM
they have TP and can wear light armor and that's more than enough
I don't know if the summon's sacrifice skill can be cast on the summoner

oh yeh, and smart cubic

langlang
04-11-2008, 03:30 PM
They are pretty much like necro now, except they still don't have a 'self heal' aka Life drain and massive amonths of debuffs.

IN OTHER WORDS THEY ARE NOTHING LIKE A NECRO.

Nyo
04-11-2008, 03:31 PM
you got passive 360 block in exchange. pally only gets that at the cost of 40% shield defense, and DA can't get it at all. so stop whining already.

You're actually mistaken about Phoenix Knights. The shield pdef penalty doesn't affect your shield fortress. A PK with that toggle up and SF+Majesty on has more P.Def. than a TK with the same, but who can't use GS. I can never use GS except in Oly because it'll destroy my mp too quickly. By increasing the mp cost of both GS and SF, they're exasperating this.

Azulenia
04-11-2008, 05:25 PM
You're actually mistaken about Phoenix Knights. The shield pdef penalty doesn't affect your shield fortress. A PK with that toggle up and SF+Majesty on has more P.Def. than a TK with the same, but who can't use GS. I can never use GS except in Oly because it'll destroy my mp too quickly. By increasing the mp cost of both GS and SF, they're exasperating this.
i was never talking about shield fortress, which is a static shield pdef boost. i was talking about the base shield pdef, which gets decreased by 40% from aegis stance if i put it on =)

Nyo
04-11-2008, 05:26 PM
i was never talking about shield fortress, which is a static shield pdef boost. i was talking about the base shield pdef, which gets decreased by 40% from aegis stance if i put it on =)

If you don't use SF when you're surrounded, that just proves the point that Majesty > 360* Block. So if you're talking about 360* block and you're not talking about SF, then there we go.

Either that or you actually don't realize just how very little shields add to defense without SF, or just how little a 40% penalty takes away. If you want, try this:

A PK with Majesty on and IC set has more pdef with the 360* block toggle than a TK/SK with their 360* toggle, but no GS. It's true! I swears it!

Azulenia
04-11-2008, 06:03 PM
If you don't use SF when you're surrounded, that just proves the point that Majesty > 360* Block. So if you're talking about 360* block and you're not talking about SF, then there we go.

Either that or you actually don't realize just how very little shields add to defense without SF, or just how little a 40% penalty takes away. If you want, try this:

A PK with Majesty on and IC set has more pdef with the 360* block toggle than a TK/SK with their 360* toggle, but no GS. It's true! I swears it!
ok, more pdef + shield pdef if you count them together maybe, but guard stance also adds shield block rate! and human tanks have a pretty shitty shield block rate vs melee hits and nukes compared to TK/SK (arrows are like always blocked anyways). i think the shield block basics are pretty balanced out tbh.

EnchantScroll
04-11-2008, 06:51 PM
[Items & Equipment]

Crafting Adjustments

Crafted items now have a chance to making more then one item, they also have a chance of making a rare version of that item (altered stats and properties).


I hope they are talking about warsmith that craft their stuff and not private craft shop. More reward to play warsmith, clan warsmith will be much loved. if warsmith they get a change to craft 2 item, while everyone who use private craft shop make only 1 item. like the good old day as soon as a well know warsmith log-on he get dozen of crafting request:)


A Grade Items in Stores
A-Grade equipment can be bought from stores in town but cannot be augmented, strengthened or SA'd.



I belive they are talking about shadows weapon, since we can buy up to B grade shadow now in ct1. If that so then we can't crystalize them..


Misc Stores and Smiths
Items in all stores have had their prices reduced.
Stores that sell Normal C grade equipment now have Normal B grade items available for purchase.
B grade equipment and lower that is bought will be exchangeable via the blacksmith in town.
Some shops started selling Mirage headdress


I think this is referring to the lux shop in giarn- only place that sell C grade item. Now they have added normal B grade (not sure if low B only) but if they sell high B grade item then market will be effected. Low B armor and weapon is not wanted much so it will not mess up market much- but we do get cheap B crystal:)

xsss
04-11-2008, 07:02 PM
I don't know if the summon's sacrifice skill can be cast on the summoner...
yes it can.

olorin00
04-11-2008, 08:00 PM
ok, more pdef + shield pdef if you count them together maybe, but guard stance also adds shield block rate! and human tanks have a pretty shitty shield block rate vs melee hits and nukes compared to TK/SK (arrows are like always blocked anyways). i think the shield block basics are pretty balanced out tbh.

Forget GS, it's useless; Shield fortress add more pdef overall (I am counting the bonus in shield defense rate of GS when I say that) and take less mp. And putting up SF AND GS is... draining your mp in a few sec. Not counting the other toggle like fortitude that are also better than GS.

I already never use GS because of his too high mp drain (and the fact that it add less than SF), I wont use it more with CT2 ^^

Dushatar
04-11-2008, 08:09 PM
I cant belive ppl complain about PS getting a nuke, god knows they deserved it. And there are what, 1 or 2 PS on each server? Not counting summoning boxes. No need to shit your pants.

xmode
04-11-2008, 10:49 PM
the nuker has 1.5k cp kai 3-4k hp and i have 3.5k cp and 14k hp as an orc.that makes it even.

EDIT:and mcrit is 4x whereas skill crit is 2x

u know, dude, that's just lame compare someone without buffs and someone with buffs. Destroyer has 6.8k HP/4.4k CP, while Necromancer 2.9k HP/1.4 CP (btw twice with TP). This +HP/+CP means nothing cause nowadays hi-end nuker crits like a hell

Nyo
04-11-2008, 11:19 PM
ok, more pdef + shield pdef if you count them together maybe, but guard stance also adds shield block rate! and human tanks have a pretty shitty shield block rate vs melee hits and nukes compared to TK/SK (arrows are like always blocked anyways). i think the shield block basics are pretty balanced out tbh.

Yeah but that's what we're trying to tell you. Guard Stance is a major problem It costs 3x the mp SF does (so if we use both GS+SF, which is pretty much the ~only~ way to use GS), so we're bleeding 50ish mp a tick. Or 40. I forget. Something like that. But anyway I'm guessing you haven't really latched onto that major problem with the skill. Using Guard Stance is a very easy way to have 0 mp in a minute or two. And now they're ~raising~ the mp cost. This isn't rly balancing a single thing.

Goldshlager
04-12-2008, 01:01 AM
I hope they are talking about warsmith that craft their stuff and not private craft shop. More reward to play warsmith, clan warsmith will be much loved. if warsmith they get a change to craft 2 item, while everyone who use private craft shop make only 1 item. like the good old day as soon as a well know warsmith log-on he get dozen of crafting request:)



If they put in it craft shop, the dwarf keeps the extra item and the person doesnt get charged. Although this would probably make all crafts 1a.

Jingoea
04-12-2008, 01:36 AM
Well PS's Shadow summon (passive VR) only takes like 18% exp I never have to heal it so I'm pretty much full mp. I would kill a lot faster using a shadow and get more experience over all then using a soulless (doesn't take exp but mana drains) if I'm nuking. In pvp it's nice but I loose enough MP as it is spam healing my summon...

We'll see what happens...

I can see this being very useful when using the Spectral knight to kill some monsters quick so it can blow up the corpses.

ZeroUno
04-12-2008, 01:55 AM
If they put in it craft shop, the dwarf keeps the extra item and the person doesnt get charged. Although this would probably make all crafts 1a.

it dont say that you can craft more as the same cost, it say that you can craft multiple objects...
as in click one time on craft and getting the requester for how many object you want to craft and not click click click click click click.....

ZeroUno
04-12-2008, 01:57 AM
Well PS's Shadow summon (passive VR) only takes like 18% exp I never have to heal it so I'm pretty much full mp. I would kill a lot faster using a shadow and get more experience over all then using a soulless (doesn't take exp but mana drains) if I'm nuking. In pvp it's nice but I loose enough MP as it is spam healing my summon...

mana drain's removed from soulless.

TenMohican
04-12-2008, 02:42 AM
Im curious what prophet mana steal will do.

Do you think this is like a passive VR effect that works for their mp ? Prophets actually doing something besides buff/sit.

shdx
04-12-2008, 03:29 AM
augmenting boss jewels ftw

Einherjar
04-12-2008, 04:07 AM
i've been playing this game since taiwanese beta and all the updates and i've always said that this game has been going downhill since that mini update post c1 - pre c2 (basically c1.5), but i'm actually looking forward to this update.

some of the added content is exactly what i've been waiting for in an l2 update or hoping for in L3


are you dumb? L3 is being designed so you can play WITH YOUR GRANDPARENTS AND PARENTS. they want to bridge the gap of broken interaction that mmos have brought today. thats dumb not good.

L3 is *not* gona be good.

Ileth
04-12-2008, 10:01 AM
You know what?

think of a gladiator.....full +++str 23% of critting....and a buff that gives a % to crit for 2x damage.......it means they'll crit x2 more than now and x4 in a good %............I'd love to see how it will be.....

and btw it seems to me they're putting a bit of brain in this updates.

more importance to evasion, more importance to pdef and so on....it will be nice to see it.

SlyCutter
04-12-2008, 10:01 AM
I think this is referring to the lux shop in giarn- only place that sell C grade item. Now they have added normal B grade (not sure if low B only) but if they sell high B grade item then market will be effected. Low B armor and weapon is not wanted much so it will not mess up market much- but we do get cheap B crystal:)

Didnt say low bgrade just says bgrade which might mean all bgrade and also says bgrade is upgradable at mammon so even if its not sold then you can get top bgrade from mammon no more 200 mil for a bgrade weapon thank god.

BTW in Hellbound Cgrade is sold Giran Aden and Rune not the luxury shop.

Exeriaa
04-12-2008, 10:50 AM
Translate this also plix plox

http://lineage2.gametsg.com/index.php?view=article&k1=GRACIA&articleid=4416

SandsOftime
04-12-2008, 10:58 AM
Translate this also plix plox

http://lineage2.gametsg.com/index.php?view=article&k1=GRACIA&articleid=4416

It's almost same as Diego translated just in chinese.

Face
04-12-2008, 11:30 AM
Just get an arbalester in party with that surrender to arrow

okay.