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poltaction
10-20-2005, 05:45 AM
http://www.darkandlight.net
discuss
Sagal
10-20-2005, 10:34 AM
this is going to be a bad ass game...
my buddy is lucky enough to be one of the beta testers..
Graffias
10-20-2005, 01:51 PM
this is going to be a bad ass game...
my buddy is lucky enough to be one of the beta testers..
Im a beta tester for DnL. As of right now.... it sucks. The movement is kinda like WoW... but alot less fluid. Moving my char is like trying to move my penis to a vagina with an inverted 1000 ton craine. The graphics are about a crappy as they come..... I think the original EQ models are better. The ideas and gameplay sound awesome... but I think they are pushing for a release date thats way to early. I wouldn't get my hopes up this early.... even tho release is scheduled for Nov./Dec. Plus... the PvP is faction based like WoW. Not a FFA like L2..... personally once you go FFA you don't go back.
Kasper
10-20-2005, 10:38 PM
ohhh... well there goes that game
Innocent
10-24-2005, 01:59 AM
alot of games that originally would have gone with ffa have switched to factions because of the success of World of Warcraft and the downfall of Lineage 2
soltys
10-24-2005, 05:50 AM
Well, as much as I don't want to, I think I'd have to agree at least a bit with Graffias. I tried recent beta build for a moment. Let's just say devs still have hell of job to... I wouldn't expect a miracle before the november though..
So, what's left then:
Vanguard SoH
Irth Online
RF Online
Sun
Darkfall (yea right..)
Age of Conan (instanced, but info is a bit fuzzy..)
DDO (again, instanced)
I'm not really interested in instanced games..
So, maybe some other less known game...
Innocent
10-24-2005, 07:38 PM
Vanguard is one game that looks very promising because of there devs success in previous games
Irith Online seems to be missing the player base it needs a lot, and the graphics are terrible
RF Online seems very promising as well, the only thing I don't like is that the game has factions...
Sun, well they haven't really got a site set up so you can't really tell about the playerbase and also I don't think some of their games were that good
Darkfall seems to be a game with very good gameplay the only thing I don't like is the graphics and the pvp seems to be very boring
Age of Conan seems like it will be a rly good pvp game maybe going to check this one out
DDO seems like it is going to be filled with DDO nerds which will ruin the experience for ppl who aren't DDO nerds
Reidmar
10-30-2005, 02:08 AM
alot of games that originally would have gone with ffa have switched to factions because of the success of World of Warcraft and the downfall of Lineage 2
1. Since when was WoW successful because of the faction-based PvP? Think again, sir, WoW was successful because Blizzard made it. So people had a reason to buy it. And, like most Blizzard games, it's fun and generally well-made. So people have a reason to stay. But how does the sole fact that WoW has faction-based PvP factor into this at all?
2. Whats this downfall you speak of? Maybe L2's not a continuously booming success with every chronicle release. But "downfall"?
Also, let me quote your statement again because people who make generalizations based on knowledge they don't have make me laugh.
alot of games that originally would have gone with ffa have switched to factions because of the success of World of Warcraft and the downfall of Lineage 2
:hm_happy:
poltaction
10-30-2005, 02:21 AM
1. Since when was WoW successful because of the faction-based PvP? Think again, sir, WoW was successful because Blizzard made it. So people had a reason to buy it. And, like most Blizzard games, it's fun and generally well-made. So people have a reason to stay. But how does the sole fact that WoW has faction-based PvP factor into this at all?
2. Whats this downfall you speak of? Maybe L2's not a continuously booming success with every chronicle release. But "downfall"?
Also, let me quote your statement again because people who make generalizations based on knowledge they don't have make me laugh.
Blizzard had a good history, but people buying the game and current subscribers is completly diffrent, people dont just play the game becuase it was made by blizzard, they play becuae they enjoy it.
so dont think you know everything
megalomaniac
10-30-2005, 06:38 AM
the "downfall" of L2 is that it's not really successful in countries where people actually want to PvP instead of grind all day and spend real live bucks on ingame money, items and characters. It has, however, a "built-in fanbase" so it won't die out anytime soon, but I don't see it grow either
but faction based PvP has nothing to do with it - in fact WoW could do without faction based PvP (IMO it's simply the backstory and design/balancing reasons which made them prefer factions instead of full FFA). L2 fails on a completely different level - the fact that PvE grinding is far more important for your progress and a lot more beneficial in PvP (level & gear >>> skill & experience), and PvP is heavily penaltized as soon as you fight outside of clanwars, sieges and arenas. Why L2 is called a prime open PvP experience, I still don't know. But again, faction based PvP has nothing to do with it's or WoW's success. Why full FFA is supposed to be any better than "limited" PvP with factions, *shrug*, IMO it's not.
astinus
10-30-2005, 02:36 PM
Who cares, there will never be a game as good as Lineage II.
Reidmar
10-30-2005, 03:07 PM
Blizzard had a good history, but people buying the game and current subscribers is completly diffrent, people dont just play the game becuase it was made by blizzard, they play becuae they enjoy it.
so dont think you know everything
Sometimes reading carefully pays off.
Think again, sir, WoW was successful because Blizzard made it. So people had a reason to buy it. And, like most Blizzard games, it's fun and generally well-made. So people have a reason to stay.
llinky
11-04-2005, 03:14 PM
Moving my char is like trying to move my penis to a vagina with an inverted 1000 ton craine.
LOL!
poltaction
11-24-2005, 06:11 PM
DnL is comming out 8th december.
Hadron
11-24-2005, 07:53 PM
I'm giving it a go for a lil bit.
poltaction
12-08-2005, 09:53 PM
SoG is out, can anybody give any feed back on how the game is?
haaat
12-09-2005, 09:14 PM
no because the servers aren't even up yet.
NobodyInParticular
12-09-2005, 09:28 PM
Farmer websites already have "presale" DnL gold up lol.. have fun I guess :(
SoG doesnt start until dec 13th.
Reidmar
12-10-2005, 12:48 AM
any of you actually watch the official videos for this game? they're BAD. looks like the game was made by a few ambitious CS majors fresh out of college, who really have no fucking clue what they're doing.
soltys
12-10-2005, 05:49 AM
looks like the game was made by a few ambitious CS majors fresh out of college, who really have no fucking clue what they're doing.
Uhmm, look at L2.
Almost total u2 conversion with turned off bot ai.
It's been two years and NC/E&G has still no fucking clue what they are doing. They learnt nothing from L1, and they are only making their game worse and more bot-dependent.
As for DnL - I watched few different videos. Some stuff looks better, some looks worse.
i am still addicted to some uo shards eek!
at topic, yeah dnl seems do get owned (by itself)
but i think rf gets kinda good, since it's somewhat like l2 in my opinion
platinumdrgn
12-15-2005, 05:22 AM
i've played SoG a little bit
its the worst MMO ever made...and its been in development for over 3 years
Yes apparently this game sucks. Watching it is like following a train headed to a wreck.
In case anyone's curious:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settlers_of_Ganareth
Initially the servers, both game server and login server, were unstable. Logging in was not easy, giving the accountholders a wide range of error messages. Once in the game, problems with the game exe-file caused people to crash out after 3-20 minutes of gameplay.
...
Several weeks into the Settlers of Ganareth new login errors began to occur which is referred to as the: "Benny Hill Login Error" or BHLE. This error is a constant loop of the server connection issues that the players now enjoy.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion.cfm/load/forums/loadforum/508/loadthread/61766/setstart/1/loadclass/173
Doing this as the Company developing D&L has been consistent of just 2 things and I am just plain sick of it.
They are currently consistent ONLY in: Lack of Communication AND Delays ... and now it seems a 3rd thing are Lying!
http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=43965
poster a: If you want a refund...
poster b: sell it on ebay lol
poster c: Bump, great link. Just showed my friend who was foolish enough to preorder and he was greatful
Some gameplay issues are here (http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion.cfm/load/forums/loadforum/508/loadthread/61275/setstart/1/loadclass/173), here (http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion.cfm/load/forums/loadforum/508/loadthread/61509/setstart/1/loadclass/173)and here (http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=41104&page=1).
Kind of sad... x.x
Hadron
12-23-2005, 03:30 PM
I got in a few times, but couldn't actually do anything in the 5 minute spurts of connectivity.
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