Obama plans to disarm America

[Tsgumi]

It was about oil and about to have control over the area. Now US will place a few more military bases on Iraq wich will allow it, for example, to keep pression over Iran and Siria.

Except that Iraq has asked for a timetable for our withdrawal.


No, what he's saying is the american companies envolved in the rebuilding of the country are making billions of dollars payed with iraqi's oil. I suggest you to check on the US high goverment members (like Rice, Runsfeld, Cheney...) and look for their ties with american companies. Now check if those companies are operating on Iraq.

Wrong again. American companies are being paid for by US government money, not Iraqi oil money. That's why every now and then congress needs to vote on whether or not to allot more money to Iraq.

And no, what he was suggesting was that the US government was making money on the deal, which doesn't even make any sense. Like most conspiracy theories, it's all half baked. People come to a conclusion and then find evidence to support it while throwing everything else out.

Let's see who is interested in Iraqi oil or currently in Iraq pumping oil out. DNO, the Norwegian oil company. Did they pay the US government to attack Iraq to get lucrative oil contracts? What about Shell? Did the Dutch owned company pass information to the US that Saddam was hiding yellow cake to provoke the US to attack?

Please use a different reason that hasn't been said 9238457023987590 times before for every other war that's occurred.

[Oldirty]

NK knows that using a nuke would result in the US invading N Korea. NK also knows that any war with the US would be a guaranteed way to topple the N Korean government. Thus, the nuclear weapon is a better bargaining chip than a weapon. Using it would only piss off the world and make every country annihilate NK.

Unlike you, they are not stupid and neither is the US government. NK used the nuclear weapon to get international aid. The US never needed to invade NK because they knew that NK would only use it as a means of self defense. Thus, it makes no sense to invade NK at the cost of millions of south koreans in a conventional land war and provoke NK to use WMDs.

But please, go on as if you had the slightest clue about the world, politics, and the military. It's cute.

PS. If Iraq was all about oil, then why is iraqi oil on the international market and the proceeds going back to rebuild Iraq?

rofl rebuilding the country
How does it come that the iraqi citizens are as unsatisfied as before?
Maybe yopou should pull out ya head out of bush boys ass fanboy ;o

The Nk thing
You could have said the same about the wmd iraq had as you say lol
Cheap excuses imo ;o

[Tsgumi]

rofl rebuilding the country
How does it come that the iraqi citizens are as unsatisfied as before?
Maybe yopou should pull out ya head out of bush boys ass fanboy ;o


Err, the citizens want us there but OK, you would know b/c you've been there or know someone who has, right? Since you are such a disbeliever that the US is actually over there rebuilding the country why don't you read for yourself?

Economic Reconstruction Programs Boost Iraqi Payrolls, Businesses
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21255&Itemid=128

Basra Could Become Another Dubai, Says Region’s Commander
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21202&Itemid=128

Hawijah’s Literacy Program Gains National Attention in Iraq
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21025&Itemid=128

Iraqi Police Deliver Food to Zuwarijat
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21069&Itemid=128

These are just some stories from this month alone. Of course you are going to say that it's biased, as if the media isn't polarized in the opposite direction. Or better yet I hope you suggest that it's fake or that the US military bulldozes the buildings and takes away the school books once the cameras leave, that way you can really show how ignorant and stupid you are.

The Nk thing
You could have said the same about the wmd iraq had as you say lol
Cheap excuses imo ;o

The two scenarios are not even close. SK has a huge say on a war that would kill a large amount of their civilians. Secondly, and the biggest distinguishing factor is that NK has never used a WMD in an act of aggression. Saddam did multiple times. But yah, pretend like you know something.

[Adrien]

Why can Isreal have WMD and Iran no?

[Jonne]

The EU developing a joint military is unlikely as they can't even agree on the constitution or NATO involvement. As a whole, European nations are unwilling to commit troops or have them participate in combat if they are committed. It's a nice thought but I don't see it happening.

Well the whole point of agreeing on a constitution is that the constitution (or now the Lisbon treaty) would streamline decision making inside the EU so a small country (like Ireland) could not single handedly block every single measure the rest of the EU wants to pass.

But yeah I do agree that a joint EU military force, a large one that is, is still pretty far away. Tho the ground work for this is already being layed down

[Tsgumi]

Why can Isreal have WMD and Iran no?

Israel has never confirmed nor denied that they have WMD's. Everyone who says they do is just speculating. Two, Israel's government doesn't resort to state sponsored terrorism or fund it. If they do possess a nuclear weapon, Israel will not use a nuclear weapon offensively as seen by their syria and iraq raid and their government is much more stable than Iran's. I'd like to hear a reason why Israel can't have a nuclear weapon. The palestinian conflict isn't a good reason.

[D4b0]

Except that Iraq has asked for a timetable for our withdrawal.
So? US has military bases all over the world and since the new iraqi goverment is pro-american probably will set a couple before left. With the iraqi goverment aproval ofc.

Wrong again. American companies are being paid for by US government money, not Iraqi oil money. That's why every now and then congress needs to vote on whether or not to allot more money to Iraq.
Since the invasion US has been managing the oil resources in Iraq. The funny thing is since the invasion nobody knows how many oil has been extracted and selled because of the lack of transparency from US. For example, when the CPA ruled over 9 billion dollars from oil sales dissapeared, where did this money go?

Let's see who is interested in Iraqi oil or currently in Iraq pumping oil out. DNO, the Norwegian oil company. Did they pay the US government to attack Iraq to get lucrative oil contracts? What about Shell? Did the Dutch owned company pass information to the US that Saddam was hiding yellow cake to provoke the US to attack?

Actually DNO signed a contract with the kurd government not with the iraqi who said it's an illegal one but since there's no proper law yet... And btw it's a shity contract compared with the contracts US want for the american oil companies.
What is happening in Irak is the biggest robery in the world history. The new iraqui law about oil is gonna let the american companies to get control over the oil resources for the next 40 years.

[Tsgumi]

O when did they move kurdistan outside of iraq?

And are you suggesting that the Iraqi government is a puppet of the US?

[Adrien]

Israel has never confirmed nor denied that they have WMD's. Everyone who says they do is just speculating. Two, Israel's government doesn't resort to state sponsored terrorism or fund it. If they do possess a nuclear weapon, Israel will not use a nuclear weapon offensively as seen by their syria and iraq raid and their government is much more stable than Iran's. I'd like to hear a reason why Israel can't have a nuclear weapon. The palestinian conflict isn't a good reason.

But still nobody still sent any commission to investigate on Israel Nuclear Program, and UN didn't give any sanction to Israel, for this and the war against unharmed civilians they are doing...


EDIT: I made a mistake Isreal isn't part of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel Speculating ah?

Hey guys, Israel is full of "pieces" to build a nuclear bomb, but we are confident that they aren't doing one!!! - Amjewrica

and for Isreal

Hey guys, Iran in 2010-15 will have enough highly enriched uranium, they sure are building a Nuclear bomb and are a danger for America and Europe (even if the only missile system they have doesn't even reach Israel) - Amjewrica

[D4b0]

O when did they move kurdistan outside of iraq?

And are you suggesting that the Iraqi government is a puppet of the US?
1. Never, but it seems like kurds have some sort of independency. The oil resources NDO is gonna manage are in the kurd part of Irak so they claim they can sign contracts with whoever they want to. Actually they already have signed over 15 contracts without the aproval of the Iraqi goverment.
2. Hard to say, maybe they are just greedy and corrupt or just dumb. But one thing is sure, US is pushing pretty hard to assure those contracts.

[Tsgumi]

Oh, so the US is manipulating the Iraqi government for oil but they're not manipulating the Kurdish government. That makes so much sense now!

[notBigBadShaman]

Tsgumi doesn't listen to faux news

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[D4b0]

Oh, so the US is manipulating the Iraqi government for oil but they're not manipulating the Kurdish government. That makes so much sense now!
Ok dude, I'm done with you.

[Adrien]

The Kurdish where the only one that like the Americans and a Democracy was the only way for them to get the Power...

It isn't strange if the American Government has good relations with them because it's the only part of Iraq that they can control (the Kurdish part).

[Tsgumi]

The Kurdish where the only one that like the Americans and a Democracy was the only way for them to get the Power...

It isn't strange if the American Government has good relations with them because it's the only part of Iraq that they can control (the Kurdish part).

LOL you have no clue what is going on. Please stop posting.

[CandyCain]

Why can Isreal have WMD and Iran no?

Because Isreal invented them.

[Adrien]

LOL you have no clue what is going on. Please stop posting.

So now the Kurdish hate America?

Kurdish where a minority in Iraq that Saddam oppressed...

[Hanoverfist]

So now the Kurdish hate America?

Kurdish where a minority in Iraq that Saddam oppressed...

read the post you quoted, it's very clear.

[*CCCP*]

This is more fake than Pamela Anderson's tits...

Behind every fake titty there was once a real one.

[Einherjar]

mayb u guys wud get a free health service, alot of americans live worse than 3rd world country ppl - that says enough right there.

also it wud ease the boot america keeps sticking up everyones ass, if the talibans bomb you, you did deserve it, but "its gona get worse before it gets better" as the late barry white said, so enjoy the bombs, after the fallout and dust settles, theres a brighter future for ya'll ;)

[Einherjar]

Because Isreal invented them.

was the fucking jews actually

[Zacherdio]

I guess I would have to edit the pic for the retards to get it:

http://i38.tinypic.com/2ajcitw.jpg

Bush is going to the middle east!

the irony from the modification is sad but true, and my major reason to dislike usa, like many others


funny tho how they react "oh no terrorists are gonna take over"

like u need the latest tech to keep em under control... good intel and espionage and police are nuff

[Zacherdio]

and whats wrong about the vid ?
its a great idea, he will end iraq war, stop spend billions of dollars and try to negotiate with russians to cut back the icbm stock

if u really think america needs to spend billions in keeping terrorists at bay, ur seriously wrong
they fight with weapons dating from the 70ties at best, and old ak47 from, lol 47 ?

this man is perhaps the most "european" president the us will ever have , and because of that the smartest one and most rational

look, we in europe never god terrorst attacks, save the uk, who are the usa's bandwagon
but we solve things with words , not weapons

god bless america, we bless ourselves and it seems to have better results

[Fish]

and whats wrong about the vid ?
its a great idea, he will end iraq war, stop spend billions of dollars and try to negotiate with russians to cut back the icbm stock

if u really think america needs to spend billions in keeping terrorists at bay, ur seriously wrong
they fight with weapons dating from the 70ties at best, and old ak47 from, lol 47 ?

this man is perhaps the most "european" president the us will ever have , and because of that the smartest one and most rational

look, we in europe never god terrorst attacks, save the uk, who are the usa's bandwagon
but we solve things with words , not weapons

god bless america, we bless ourselves and it seems to have better results

Exactally why I think he will lose. We Americans hate the way Euroland is ran and do not want to be a bunch of pussies like you guys. You get attacked left and right and dont do shit about it. We got hit once, and fucking fought back and havent been hit since.

Now go stick your head back in the sand.

[Fumiko]

We got hit once, and fucking fought back and havent been hit since.fought? lol, you mean fight, right?

wow, this should turn out into a discussion about how hard lolmerica got/gets pwned in iraq and how many ppl died from that war