Destroyer weapons

[Jackel]

I know this has probably been asked a million times, but I went through this forum and couldn't find an answer, so here's a question for all the destroyers out there.

How much better is a 2h sword than a blunt for pvp? Is the extra attack of it really that much better than the stuns the blunt's can produce?

I admit, I'm a melee n00b. I've always played healers, summoners and archers, and now I want to be a force to be reckoned with, hence the re-roll. I was going to go Tyrant but after all the research I've done it seems like the consensus is that Destroyers are more fun and feared.

[XtremE]

2h weapon is a lot better than blunt because you get almost 2x the patk and the critical rate is a lot higher.

you know the best way to play a destroyer? have the best of all worlds: get decked out with all the weapons )) I assure you will never get bored.

switch to blunt to do your stuns, switch to 2h swords when enemies get inclose, use a bow when they kite you.

here are a few vids i made in my spare time of mass pvping in a destroyers pov. Hope it can give you some insights. If you're interested in other ones I made they should all be under the movie archive.

http://www.voyageur.ca/%7Epmoreau/siegefrap.rar
-(Siege Vid 10-15-2005 Innadril//dion mass pvp and seriously I'm talking over 200 people+ fighting at once.)

http://www.voyageur.ca/%7Epmoreau/ICvsUD.rar
-(Siege Vid 10-30-2005 this is video of our dion defense IC vs Unwritten destiny Alliance)

good luck

[StealthRaptor]

2h weapon is a lot better than blunt because you get almost 2x the patk and the critical rate is a lot higher.

you know the best way to play a destroyer? have the best of all worlds: get decked out with all the weapons )) I assure you will never get bored.

switch to blunt to do your stuns, switch to 2h swords when enemies get inclose, use a bow when they kite you.

here are a few vids i made in my spare time of mass pvping in a destroyers pov. Hope it can give you some insights. If you're interested in other ones I made they should all be under the movie archive.

http://www.voyageur.ca/%7Epmoreau/siegefrap.rar
-(Siege Vid 10-15-2005 Innadril//dion mass pvp and seriously I'm talking over 200 people+ fighting at once.)

http://www.voyageur.ca/%7Epmoreau/ICvsUD.rar
-(Siege Vid 10-30-2005 this is video of our dion defense IC vs Unwritten destiny Alliance)

good luck
he speaks the truth, destroyers are the most versaitle class in the game lol

don't forget the polearm xtreme, you guys are not warlords but damn...

[Jackel]

lol

I'm stressin just figuring out how I'm going to keep two weapons, let alone four. :P

[BrutalityCrazy]

I have a bop, gs, dmg, and lance. For pvp i mainly use my blunt and bop. pve i mainly use gs and lance.

[DragonSeeker]

destroyer= 2 handed bow and pole u need hoho poor destroyers ;o

[Kratos]

2 handed sword>blunt ALWAYS

a 2 handed sword has more critical rate, a lot of patk and you can get health SA with them as well, so the blunt is nothing more than a cheap crappy weapon. If you want to stun, switch to blunt, stun, and go back to your sword

[Denito(WTT)]

go full on +dex and str and get a 2Hsword and a bow, then maybe a blunt if you want to buy it for that stun edge

[drymoon]

Blunt is the worst weapon in the game, just use it for stun.

[Kratos]

I dont know why you would use a blunt on a destroyer. Blunts have low critical, fast atk speed, very low patk and most likely health SA

Two handed swords have high critical rate, normal atk speed, very high patk and can have focus and health SA. So if you want health that bad just get a two handed sword with health, and if you want to stun switch to a crappy blunt and go back to your sword

the use of a shield is something deifinitely useless on a destroyer, you have low dex and no shield masteries. So in the end using blunt for the whole excuse of faster atk speed and perma stun is a waste

[iskar]

but using a blunt can be pretty effective if you usel doom set because it gives you 25% more shield block rate. That 25% makes a huge difference

[DemonWolf]

LOL @ ppl that make a blunt there main weapon. Blunts are made for quick stuns nuthin more and yes all 4 weapons are needed to be a versatile Destroyer and it helps alot in a seige best of both worlds or in thise case quad words.

[Meshu]

I dont know why you would use a blunt on a destroyer. Blunts have low critical, fast atk speed, very low patk and most likely health SA

Two handed swords have high critical rate, normal atk speed, very high patk and can have focus and health SA. So if you want health that bad just get a two handed sword with health, and if you want to stun switch to a crappy blunt and go back to your sword

the use of a shield is something deifinitely useless on a destroyer, you have low dex and no shield masteries. So in the end using blunt for the whole excuse of faster atk speed and perma stun is a waste

Meteor Shower has a Focus SA. This is an "A" grade blunt with a similar P.Atk to a GS, faster attack speed and the ability of stun. (Not to mention use of a shield - Shield buffs and armour bonuses can make up for the lack of shield skills).

I personally don't/haven't used one on my toon, but have thought of trying one to see what it is like.

Edit - Forgot to add the A grade 2 handed sword doesn't not have Focus possibilities to it

Just adding my 2 cents.

[DemonWolf]

Meteor Shower has a Focus SA. This is an "A" grade blunt with a similar P.Atk to a GS, faster attack speed and the ability of stun. (Not to mention use of a shield - Shield buffs and armour bonuses can make up for the lack of shield skills).

I personally don't/haven't used one on my toon, but have thought of trying one to see what it is like.

Edit - Forgot to add the A grade 2 handed sword doesn't not have Focus possibilities to it

Just adding my 2 cents.

Hmmm it has drain and bleed and health and Focus if i read correctly

[Tsgumi]

Does anyone know the difference in critical rates between a focus meteor shower and the base critical rate of a sword?

[zeroflux923]

fosuc on a blunt = the same crit as a sword without crit sa = 84 base

[Kandyman]

I just sold my meteor shower, a blunt weapon is only good for 2 reasons on a destroyer 1. the use of stun skills 2. doom set +block rate with shield plus EE buffs. ( a destroyer with max con tatas and buffs can reach aroun 16k hp on the high end [ + 5 con, doom, health SA, battle roar and vitality]) although you wont kill many people, because the archers and nukers will ks you....it is very easy to stay alive in this setup because a bish can you heal you for several thousands of hp with a % heal.

[quatizin]

What is better to a destro... at lvl 61+ a OEd GS(like +8) SA focus or a DS+3 SA Health....
the DS patak will be significantly higher than the GS... but the crit rate will be just great with the GS...

i think propably GS OEd is better... i think that a destro in maj set with +5str-5con and no dex tatoos... will have like same hp of 1 in same set with a DS w/SA health and +4str+4dex -8con
and i can freely change to my bow.. and my hp will be the same..

what do u guys think?

[Garmoth]

Two handed blunt @ destroyer ftw =)

[Viperkiller]

I have
2 Handed Sword (Dragon Slayer)
Bow (BoP, somtimes +10 soul bow)
Blunt (NG Blunt, just for stunning 'em bitches when I need to)

[GordonGreedstein]

Two handed blunt @ destroyer ftw =)

one of my clan members has the S-grade 2-handed blunt, and it's pretty nice.

We have a level 12 soul crystal but we're having some difficulty getting it to level 13 so far.

[quatizin]

2handed blunts have a crap critical rate, dont they?

[tozim]

All blunts have crap crit rate, and nearly all 2H blunts have shitty patk since they are magic staff weapons.

But S grade there are 2 fighter 2H blunts, the Dragon Hunter Axe and the Hero weap. But mainly the advantage is that you can use all your stuns and skills without having to switch, while still getting a lot of patk from stacked 2H and Sword/Blunt masteries. Also you'll have higher acc, if you have trouble hitting a light armour class, or if you're spamming skills which don't depend on either crit or acc.

I would guess that 2H sword is still better in general.

[tozim]

Just went to look at those SAs:

* [2H Sword] Heaven's Divider : 342/132 : Haste, Heath, Focus

* [2H Blunt] Dragon Hunter Axe : 342/132 : HP Drain, Health, HP Regen

Heaven's Divider has the better SA's by far.

As for Hero weapons:

* [2H Sword]Infinity Cleaver: 361/137 : Added damage upon critical, reflects skills at a certain rate, max HP/max CP increased, critical power / chance increased, increased damage in PvP

* [2H Blunt] Infinity Crusher: 361/137: Stuns the enemy upon critical, reflects skills at a certain rate, max HP/max CP increased, atk. spd increased, increased damage in PvP

Focus, Crit Power++, that's ownage right there. I'm going to have to say better than haste and crit stun on a slow, low crit weapon.

[Menzer]

This one's good

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