Alliance of One, Dawn Traitors?

[PKMastaBlasta]

AO1 owns a castle, yet fights on the Dusk side. This sounds like treason to me. Thoughts?

[drexis]

They all pay their 15 bucks a month to play however they want.

[PKMastaBlasta]

It sounds like that's a vote for, yes, this is treason.

[m4ntis]

Lol, it's a game, they can do as they please. They still lost and now are not getting the benefits Dawn are, shitty choice on their behalf imo.

[etrina]

Easy enough to fix. We got a few clans without big stone houses :)

[PKMastaBlasta]

While I don't usually back the oppressive, "police the world" attitude of Dynasty, I think AO1 losing their castle is an acceptable turn of events for these traitors. They had an opportunity to work with the Dawn side and hold up there obligations as castle owners. Instead, they have found an exploit to actually fight on Dusk side when systematically they should be on Dawn side. Shame on them!

[PkMastasChick]

You said it baby! Ao1 = traitors

[etrina]

Nah, not policing the world. Just causing more drama! I mean, if we own every castle, someone is certain to siege us right? And sieges are fun! We all win!!

[drexis]

While I don't usually back the oppressive, "police the world" attitude of Dynasty, I think AO1 losing their castle is an acceptable turn of events for these traitors. They had an opportunity to work with the Dawn side and hold up there obligations as castle owners. Instead, they have found an exploit to actually fight on Dusk side when systematically they should be on Dawn side. Shame on them!
Noone in this game is "obligated" to do anything, nor was it an "exploit". PK, you are starting to sound just like the people who flame Dynasty for everything they do. And besides, where are your convictions? You hate Dynasty, then you like them better then Saints, and now you like Saints again but dislike AO1. You change your mind to suit your arguement, much like a woman. :shock:

P.S. Sorry for the sexist comment.

[PKMastaBlasta]

I simply call it how I see it. OMNI is long gone and nobody has any ties to them anymore, so, as a neutral party who plays on the side of good (Dawn), it sickens me to see a clan who owns a castle exploiting the system to fight on the Dusk side.

[ErnestoColnago]

Are they not doing what some others are.

You yourself admit to paying 50K to join Dawn....Yet i'm sure you have Alts who could be used if Dusk wins.

With AO1 I think its more of a dislike for the Dawn side. Therefore they took it with Alts and their Mains fight on the Dusk side. Wonder where they learned that trick...lol.

[count]

Exploit .. no

A henderance to the dawn side.. yes


Castle holding clans are one thing, but when you do it so you can reduce the effective force of a side for the compitition... well your going to piss off all the other castle owners.

[Yamamoto]

Imo dawn and dusk is a dumb system simply because your not bound to the side you sign up for with your main since you can sign up for the opposing side with your alt. Ao1 isnt a traitor all they did was have an alt clan scribe and then leave the alliance with that clan. Its just like what dynasty did with dummy clans holding castles, only their (Ao1) dummy clan isn't in their alliance. They still hafta defend it and if dusk consistently wins the competetion then their castle will also be easier to take.

[Highpriest]

AO1 seems to do a lot of fun things and I am personally not pissed off for what they have done. 2 weeks ago the debuffs really sucked for down, and I guess they predicted a dusk win.

On the other side, as a castle owner, they could have co-operated with the other owners and setup teams for the festivals. We all acknowledge that the unlimited festival will be hard to ever win (well at least in the near future) due to Saints having the highest level SHs in game, all other festivals are, however, open to take. Consequently AO1 should co-ordinate the festival activities with the others. I think loosing the castle might be a good lesson for them though, there are certainly other alliances who would be happy to own one.

We'll see what happens this weekend. Hope to see a lot of sieges happening.

[Beast]

Treason ? Against who ? I only see it as a legit tactic, like drexis said they paid for the game, the choose their playstyle etc etc.

Yes they lost this time, still only due to one single event in the festivals. Just look how many seal stones dusk is farming. They prolly want to hunt in the catacombs/necro's like everyone else once the competetion period is over.

Castle owners aren't allied because of this seven signs thing, they can do as they please, and ie. if dusk wins the last seal (don't remember what it's called) might have to pay for the consequenses if they get sieged.

[Craylon]

hmm,

i have to agree with pk, you can call it treason.

but id rather call it rebellion since we liberated the castle from the opressors of dawn (against the best oponent we ever had, thanx again for the great battle aow) and strengthened the rebels for 2 weeks.

when we chose dusk we did it exactly like that : a choice
and btw this choice was made at a time when dawn was winning bevore saints turned it around in the 1st festival (as you could read at that other forum)

this isnt a choice of opportunism.
youll never see a screenshot where some1 of the alt clan buys from the mammon trader or blacksmith since that would be against our core values.

we will stay on the side of dusk by choice wether we hold a castle or not. it may be a weakness in terms of game mechanics not beeing on the winning side, in the biggest alliance or at the spot of the best exploit but for us its freedom and dignity to play the game our style.

as of now it is more important for us to remain our integrity and course then to have the best a-grade or the richest hunting spots.

[GordonGreedstein]

youll never see a screenshot where some1 of the alt clan buys from the mammon trader or blacksmith since that would be against our core values.


Huhhhhh? Is AO1 a RP group now?

[count]

They have always tilted toward RP, but not as hardcore as some other clans ( personal observation)


Godo
Love the avatar man :)

[Harry]

DOWN with Ao1 DOWN!!!

I'm joining them in 3 days to extinguish them from inside out muahhaha :D

[KTFDL]

AO1 just lost there castle to nemesis wasnt even much of a fight... nemesis took the castle in under 19 minutes

[Craylon]

ok let me comment this a bit :)

1. about roleplaying
were not a hardcore rpg aliance, every1 here playes his charakter the way he likes and ull see hardly anyone from ao1 walking around saying "jolly good day great sir, may i hold your horse". but what i personally believe in is, that it gives ppl a bit more fun in the game if they stick to their own integrity, maybe follow a bit of a storie of their own.
we were dusk, are dusk and will be dusk and thats kind of story element that is not bend in joining dawn when they win or dusk if they win.
to me it feels like a power building programm rather then a game when the fun out of living in that world is taken away and everything is centered only on maximizing the char or alliance.


2. about dion:

AO1 just lost there castle to nemesis wasnt even much of a fight... nemesis took the castle in under 19 minutes

well i dont want to get into that i saw a bit more ppl on the attackers side then nemesis and start by apologizing we didnt put up more of a fight.
basicly it was my mistake beeing a bit of a siege n00b.
when we died we couldnt respawn in the castle but died of to gludin.
even tough all defending clans were aproved a gm told us later that only clans on dawn side will end up in the castle. and as stated in 1. dawn we are not ^^

strange game mechanics tough with no seal of strife in play and beeing approved and in the same allaince as the castle holder doesnt allow the spawning to throne room.

so back to sherwood forrest and good by to the nice brik walls of dion castle

[KTFDL]

ok let me comment this a bit :)

2. about dion:

AO1 just lost there castle to nemesis wasnt even much of a fight... nemesis took the castle in under 19 minutes

well i dont want to get into that i saw a bit more ppl on the attackers side then nemesis and start by apologizing we didnt put up more of a fight.
basicly it was my mistake beeing a bit of a siege n00b.
when we died we couldnt respawn in the castle but died of to gludin.
even tough all defending clans were aproved a gm told us later that only clans on dawn side will end up in the castle. and as stated in 1. dawn we are not ^^

strange game mechanics tough with no seal of strife in play and beeing approved and in the same allaince as the castle holder doesnt allow the spawning to throne room.


yea lol when we got through the wall i saw the castle completely deserted and im just like wtf lol were did they go....but thanks for explaining craylon :D was meaning to ask what happened to you guys lol

[Dash]

So once again unexplained game mechanics/MASSIVE F*CKING BUG strikes again. Not that I care if they held or lost the castle, but where did it say that only people on Dawn would respawn in the castle even if you were signed up to defend. That seems to negate the point of defending against an enemy clan especially if you're outside an alliance.

Second, why was Dynasty helping Nemesis? I thought Dynasty's stance on botters and ebayers was a negative one?

[Yamamoto]

Not a bug or a weird game mechanic its to keep ppl from doing what you guys did :lol:

[Dash]

Just to clarify, I'm not part of AO1. And like I said before, I don't give a shit if AO1 held or lost the castle as I don't care or have loyalty to any person or clan on the server.

And yes it IS a weird game mechanic because previously, anyone signed up to defend went back inside the castle to respawn. As of C3, if you aren't dawn, you get kicked just as if you weren't even participating in the siege or as if you didn't have a flag up.

They didn't explain this anywhere in the new update for C3 from what I read. This does make it a new, completely unannounced, weird change of seige mechanics. OR its a bug and as we all know, if its a bug and the GM is (as always) a f*cking moron, its a "game feature."

My arguement isn't with how or who took the castle, its with NCSoft having crappy reasons for why things happen, not announcing them when there is a major change, or talking out their ass when things are blatently bugged.