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[Einherjar]

Aseleon, LeFAp.Com

More skill update(Daggers) based off of Treasure Hunter forum

*Skill 'Dash' cool time reduced to around 1 min.

*'Dash' duration time increased to 15 seconds

*Deadly Blow/Back Stab enchanced with 'Instant Kill' effect

*'Instant Kill' effect probability increased

*Critical Blow(General description, look at Jihae's post.)
Total of 10 skill levels, level 10 Power = 3613. Effect 1 to 5, Duration 15sec.

*Stealth is not a toggle skill like silent walk. Duration = 2minutes, able to use it right away again(Cool time <2min), P. Atk, P. Def, M. Def, Accuracy and Critical chance greatly decreased during stealth. No movement speed deduction.

*'Lethal Blow' Cooltime reduced

*'Bluff' Mp cost reduced to 35

*'Focus Power/Chance' Mp cost reduced to 35

*'Vicious Stance' adds a bit more critical damage to stab skills.

*Test Server Bug?: There's a chance of 'Instant Kill' even if the stabbing doesn't land on the character.

http://members.dslextreme.com/users/dvenger421/images/Shot00013.JPG
Screen of 78 Adventurer in Korean Test Server
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Chat Box reads:
Refused Party Offer
Character is already in party
Clan member blahblah connected
You can feel the effect of Greater Alacricity Potion
Use Critical Blow
You can feel the effect of Critical Blow
Use Mortal Blow
Critical Hit!
You gave 638 Damage
Use Lethal Blow
Critical Hit!
You gave 1434 Damage
INSTANT KILL!
Use Deadly Blow
Use Backstab
Criitical Hit!
You gave 1420 Damage
Use Deadly Blow
Critical Hit!
You gave 1440 Damage
INSTANT KILL!
Use Lethal Blow
Critical Hit!
You gave 1488 Damage
The effect of Critical Blow has worn off.
White Chat
White Chat
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Yeah I was pretty bored to translate all that, but then again I was surprised with how much times the dagger skill landed + Instant Kills.
Looks like daggers aren't so gimp anymore. Go Tharis, Phyx and Lori!

Oh and it seems like the skill 'Erase'(Force Unsummon Enemy Servitor) has really low chance of landing. So no worries for Ein's cat, Fiddy's horsie and my beloved queen <3 (Maybe we can get a squadron of healers to spam' Erase' during siege to unsummon dwarf summons if it's allowed in siege ground/dwarven summons)

'Mana Burn/Mana Storm' seems like it has extremely high chance of landing though. And it burns ALL of your mana. Over powered imo. They better change it in the actual update.

omgooses /discuss !

[Xon]

LOL, the return of TH and the rise of Bishops:of_happy:

[oderon]

omg, can this be reflected by riposte stance ? :dwm_swt:

[kholdstare]

'Mana Burn/Mana Storm' seems like it has extremely high chance of landing though. And it burns ALL of your mana. Over powered imo. They better change it in the actual update."

FUK THAT! That is AWESOME! FINALLY, a skill that gives nukers the shaft. I allready get a skill that roots archers, so now with a good grp, Melee can actually DO something in PVP.

THANK YOU NCSOFT!

FUK YOU! SH
FUK YOU! SPS
FUK YOU! Sorc
YOUR COOL! Phantom Summoner
and FUCK! YOU!!!! NECRO

Screw you guys, I'm finally gonna pay you back for FOUR CHRONICLES OF MISERY!

[Dalai-Lama]

Oh yeah the Bishops are overpowered now, they have a skill that burn all the MP...
Damn is there someone thinking here ?!
Even if you burn the mp of someone, that don't make him die, his surviving chances is low, but he can do things. And a Bishop with no one else with him can't kill one only man in less than 1 minutes, so u got long time to move away to get help...

U call this overpower ?
No overpower is killing someone in 3 shots, with a crazy casting speed and a awesome range.

burning MP is not overpower, is just fair against nukers.

Stop complaining about something, that's 2.5 years than bishop do approx nothing except sit and heal, let them have some cool things to do in PvP.

[Sylvart]

Stop complaining about something, that's 2.5 years than bishop do approx nothing except sit and heal, let them have some cool things to do in PvP.

And prophets, and EE, and SE. They get mana burn, too (single target).

[Dalai-Lama]

And prophets, and EE, and SE. They get mana burn, too (single target).
That don't change anything of what i'm saying.

[Dakota]

its no worse than freaking cancel or silence anyway, both of those render the victim useless.

[SoulGlo]

omg, can this be reflected by riposte stance ? :dwm_swt:

riposte stance should, it reflects all debuffs..

[leogeo2]

If I remember correctly, someone posted that Chronicle 5 would be the age of the healers. ;)
Though I would still love to see what they can do to the Gladiators since they are still ever so gimp. :(

[Tilluss]

wow...... holy fuck..... MANA BURN FOR THE FUCKING WIN!!!

looks like it's time to rez my AW from the dead :D

If I remember correctly, someone posted that Chronicle 5 would be the age of the healers.

<------- ;)

[Sylvart]

That don't change anything of what i'm saying.

Just pointing out that it's not only Bishops who get that skill, because so far in this thread everybody only taked about them.

[SoulGlo]

If I remember correctly, someone posted that Chronicle 5 would be the age of the healers. ;)
Though I would still love to see what they can do to the Gladiators since they are still ever so gimp. :(


Sad but so true :/ GLADIATORSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSS

[Tadu]

hahahaha, we gonna wtfpwn all those nukers if this is true! MP burn ftw!

This is such a good way to obtain balance, as it finally makes a class that is more powerful than nukers but that is still weak to melee.

Mages will own melee with their high DPS. Healers will be able to disable mages (and archers too to some extent as they use MP to shoot). But melee can still own healers, even if they have no MP. Tanks can own archers/daggers with their pdef and new root skills to prevent them kiting, heavy melee can own tanks with their large HP, and archers can own heavy melee with kiting.

It could work really well, just hope NC don't mess it up, bring on C5!

[leogeo2]

Sad but so true :/ GLADIATORSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSS
Personally I would love to see if Gladiators would get a type of ranged stun that they can fire while holding dual swords, or have a 'Dash' type of skill, or a hamstring/cripple type of attack. There isn't a class that I can name that hasn't kited me to death. :dwf_cry:

[SoulGlo]

Personally I would love to see if Gladiators would get a type of ranged stun that they can fire while holding dual swords, or have a 'Dash' type of skill, or a hamstring/cripple type of attack. There isn't a class that I can name that hasn't kited me to death. :dwf_cry:


LOL if glads got those then they would be a tyrant with dual swords! I think they should get perhaps a long range stun something like shockblast - but it does no dmg and stunning effect is high. I always thought felt that glads defect weakness buffs could've been applied to pvp, like detect mage weakness or etc. Then a glad could deal extra dmg to a target based on the class. And they need to fix final frenzy, because it's worthless atm. Although force sonic is pretty nice. VietKnight in those tournament vids tore people up with it.

LOL is anyone thinking that glads perhaps should've got a root skill LOL

[chintin]

burning MP is not overpower, is just fair against nukers.

P.

im againts nukers too, but lets take a look at this:

** archers - theyre kinda overpowered too, they cant do shit without MP, pop out a dagger maybe? ... HE`s can actually convert hp to mp after being "burned" by a bishop... feel bad for the SR`s and PR`s.
** healers - no mp to heal = you die fast.

now lets take a look at the melees (being gimp already):

** bd, sws - no dances/songs or mp to UD = you are even more gimp.
** melees - no mp to shield stun/specials/no sonic blast/dagger specials
etc, etc...

melees can still kill a healer after being burned... the question is, can you do it before they bsoe? or even worse, before they root you and pop up a soul bow and kick you ass (assuming they have a bow and you dont) ?

thats quite overpowered if you ask me

[Heliospathe]

im againts nukers too, but lets take a look at this:

** archers - theyre kinda overpowered too, they cant do shit without MP, pop out a dagger maybe? ... HE`s can actually convert hp to mp after being "burned" by a bishop... feel bad for the SR`s and PR`s.
** healers - no mp to heal = you die fast.

now lets take a look at the melees (being gimp already):

** bd, sws - no dances/songs or mp to UD = you are even more gimp.
** melees - no mp to shield stun/specials/no sonic blast/dagger specials
etc, etc...

thats quite overpowered if you ask me

You left out one important detail....

Melees can still use their weapon with no MP. That is not overpowered!

Balance at last! Balance at last! :hf_luv2::hf_luv2::hf_luv2:

[Unholyspirit]

glads are supposed to kill tanks and support classes, he doesnt need root or a ranged stun therefor

[leogeo2]

glads are supposed to kill tanks and support classes, he doesnt need root or a ranged stun therefor
DA, SK, TK and Paladin can all kill a Gladi easily (TK and Paladin just take alot longer to do it.) Sws can easily take down a Gladi if they use a bow and kite, BD get's get asses handed over though just because of the power difference between the two melee classes.

[Diego Vargas]

You left out one important detail....

Melees can still use their weapon with no MP. That is not overpowered!

Balance at last! Balance at last! :hf_luv2::hf_luv2::hf_luv2:

You cant use a bow with 0 mp, how is this balanced ?

[Dakota]

you can't use a sword when out of range against a class which runs faster, how is this balanced either?

[oderon]

it all depends what'll be the cooldown on mana burn, burn doesn't stop your mana regen - you'll still shoot although less often.

[odinstyLe]

/creams @ the th comments

mana burn is stupid if it lands as often as they say it does. (for the record, instant kill on daggers is equally dumb).

i mean nukers cant nuke, healers cant heal, daggers cant do anything, archers wont be able to shoot.... that's way overpowered. change it to 50% mana burn and maybe we'll be closer to balanced.

[leogeo2]

You cant use a bow with 0 mp, how is this balanced ?
You can still regen during combat, so though it would be extremely slow shooting, you can still run to gain even just a tad bit of mana to fire off a few arrows and continue kiting. Just don't expect to save enough for skills such as Lethal Shot or Stun Shot and such.