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Tilluss
04-27-2006, 08:04 AM
In every single chronicle so far there has been a class that stands out as being overpowered, will this trend continue and shift from a necro to something else? Or will NC soft finally get something right and make every class killable by something else?

Cast your votes!

DutchFire
04-27-2006, 08:11 AM
Did u read the patch notes at all?

http://www.l2guru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29289

Go read that son.

<3 Hellrose!

Unholyspirit
04-27-2006, 08:16 AM
im thinking of the prophet as the imba-class (yes it sounds crazy) cause he can blew away others mp, got heavy armor mastery and can battle heal hisself. i think he could kill any dagger/archer/warrior/nuker cause they dont do much dmg without their specials. (and lol the archer/dagger has less evasion cause of zerg)

Tilluss
04-27-2006, 08:17 AM
Did u read the patch notes at all?

http://www.l2guru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29289

Go read that son.

<3 Hellrose!

ah yes but that really means fuck all if a healer can root a mele type or archer type, burn their mana and then attack with a polearm/bow out of range of the mele's attack and with an archer not being able to attack due to no MP.

get my drift?

leogeo2
04-27-2006, 08:21 AM
ah yes but that really means fuck all if a healer can root a mele type or archer type, burn their mana and then attack with a polearm/bow out of range of the mele's attack and with an archer not being able to attack due to no MP.

get my drift?
That was the exact same discussion that me and my clannies were talking about in vent, where in theory, a Prophet or Shillien Elder would be able to dominate almost any class due to root and mana burn. I'll wait till future changes in the PTS to make any decisions on this, though.

Morlek
04-27-2006, 08:32 AM
who cares about 1v1?

Tilluss
04-27-2006, 08:34 AM
who cares about 1v1?


it wasn't 1 vs 1 when necro's could take on several people at once....

ArchCC
04-27-2006, 08:39 AM
Did PTS start on korean servers?

Reinhart
04-27-2006, 08:42 AM
who cares about 1v1?
WTB MORE IDIOTS IN LIEANGE2

the preview site itself showed diagram fighters>healers > nukers

SoulGlo
04-27-2006, 08:54 AM
Did PTS start on korean servers?


Nope and people shouldn't act like this is the finished product because it's not.

TemplarZ
04-27-2006, 09:02 AM
Obviously if theres an overpowered class than the work of the past 6 months from NCSOFT was a total waste. Their purpose to balance. Thats all c5 is.

TemplarZ
04-27-2006, 09:02 AM
Nope and people shouldn't act like this is the finished product because it's not.

PTS is up...

DutchFire
04-27-2006, 09:15 AM
from what i understand in th patchnotes every class is able to beat certain classes, and should run from other classes.

Im curious how this will turn out tho, im also curious if clanskills will affect pvp much.:hf_luv2:

SoulGlo
04-27-2006, 09:17 AM
PTS is up...


Ok well none of this is the final product

Glav
04-27-2006, 09:20 AM
Necro will still be top dog. All the necro has to do is para the party's prophet, silence the party's SE, and proceed to do exactly what he does now. ;)

Tadu
04-27-2006, 09:24 AM
That was the exact same discussion that me and my clannies were talking about in vent, where in theory, a Prophet or Shillien Elder would be able to dominate almost any class due to root and mana burn. I'll wait till future changes in the PTS to make any decisions on this, though.

LOL, i would hardly say the support classes would "dominate" the melee classes if melee had no MP cos of burn, melee still hit much harder than healers even without MP and have a ton of HP compared to the healers. Would take a healer a LONG time to take down most melee classes.

I know this is a CRAZY idea, but maybe C5 will have no FOTM class, and what will work best is a combination of different classes working together!

Unholyspirit
04-27-2006, 10:26 AM
Necro will still be top dog. All the necro has to do is para the party's prophet, silence the party's SE, and proceed to do exactly what he does now. ;)

depends on the mana burn's cast speed, cause without mp he cant silence and para

Rafal
04-27-2006, 10:31 AM
im thinking of the prophet as the imba-class (yes it sounds crazy) cause he can blew away others mp, got heavy armor mastery and can battle heal hisself. i think he could kill any dagger/archer/warrior/nuker cause they dont do much dmg without their specials. (and lol the archer/dagger has less evasion cause of zerg)


if only NCSoft could hear u


WTB a MP drain too :)

Bhaalspawn
04-27-2006, 10:35 AM
ah yes but that really means fuck all if a healer can root a mele type or archer type, burn their mana and then attack with a polearm/bow out of range of the mele's attack and with an archer not being able to attack due to no MP.

get my drift?
Dreadnought 78lvl > Hierophant 78 lvl
if he buff his enemy first :dwm_happy heehehehe

Nyo
04-27-2006, 10:37 AM
depends on the mana burn's cast speed, cause without mp he cant silence and para

I don't think it burns ALL mp. That would be stupid. And even if it does, it doesn't because it will be changed. And even if it doesn't get changed, it doesn't because it never did in the first place. Make sense? I hope not.

Necros will still be on top with the current list of changes. We'll see in the time to come.

Vent
04-27-2006, 10:55 AM
Can't really pick a C5 class yet for the FotM but I can say we will probably see more healers lfg and more healers who are willing to PvP. This will put a gap between boxed healers/buffers and live ones who can pvp well.

As for nukers, there was a change in the reuse times of certain skills, I know daggers were boosted in this area, but what about nukers? Could their reuse time and casting speed of their nukes/sleep etc be greatly lowered? I wouldn't be surprised if it was, let's see how this all plays out though.

Glav
04-27-2006, 10:56 AM
I don't think it burns ALL mp. That would be stupid. And even if it does, it doesn't because it will be changed. And even if it doesn't get changed, it doesn't because it never did in the first place. Make sense? I hope not.

Necros will still be on top with the current list of changes. We'll see in the time to come.
It's already been said several times that it burns all MP away. It's speculated (not confirmed) that it has similar cooldown time as cancel and silence. It's an excellent, strong counter against nukers.

FlyZ
04-27-2006, 10:57 AM
I don't think it burns ALL mp. That would be stupid. And even if it does, it doesn't because it will be changed. And even if it doesn't get changed, it doesn't because it never did in the first place. Make sense? I hope not.

Necros will still be on top with the current list of changes. We'll see in the time to come.

It would need to be to balance the offensive mage to defensive mage ratio. At the moment, that's 10:1 at best...
In 1v1, yes that would hurt, but cancel mages are essentially the same by killing dps with no buff. 1 disabled mage in a mass pvp wouldn't hurt tbh.

Tadu
04-27-2006, 10:58 AM
In the "JeSuZ" thread the guy says that MP burn takes ALL MP on the current PTS, your right though, it might be changed, hope not though. :)

Bloodash
04-27-2006, 11:04 AM
if it will be changed, defensive nukers won't > offensive nukers anymore, with half a mana bar nukers still beat most people.