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Qina
05-03-2006, 01:12 PM
fcuking great.. c5 hates archers imo.. bishops/overlords will get a skill that "burns enemies mp". Sure its bad for nukers.. but since they have BTM, its not all that bad.. but omg.. what about us archers!? Does this mean that my SR will get owned by a friggin bishop?! FFS thats stupid! And since the casting speed will be increased I guess its just time for me to reroll eh... stupid koreans... Or heh.. maybe I need to carry a dagger if i ever wanna pwn a healer again eh? gg.. :ef_mad:

So to all you archers out there.. kill those bishops while u can! *sniff*

SulaMoon
05-03-2006, 01:18 PM
lol
OL dont get manaburn, its the bishop+prophet+EE+SE who get it.

And..
Two archers gets a kind of BotM.

Your point?
(BTW, mana burns dont take away all the mp it seems)

Bloodash
05-03-2006, 01:20 PM
Actually, its all healers + prophet, bishops get the aoe version and a debuff that increases mana cost.

and even if I'd drain all your mana, you didn't have a dagger on you, and decided not to kite me, our battle would go like this:

*miss*
you hit for 112 damage
*miss*
*miss*
you hit for 97 damage
*miss*
etc.

you get the point.

Qina
05-03-2006, 01:48 PM
I sure hope prophets dont get manaburn.. then it will be: ROOT-> mana burn -> archer useless :S

SulaMoon
05-03-2006, 01:51 PM
if the healer is alone, you will have plenty time to regen a bit of mana to take him down. You know, dealing damage isnt something healers are proud of..

Bloodash
05-03-2006, 01:52 PM
bishops don't get root past level 35, so at high level that won't be much of a problem, and sleep won't stop you from kiting.

Qina
05-03-2006, 01:53 PM
I dont think the healer will just stand around and wait for me to regain mp tho :S

SulaMoon
05-03-2006, 01:56 PM
yeah. he will be "missing target" meanwhile, you know.

Sickbrain
05-03-2006, 02:11 PM
Healers won’t kill archers. Even without MP and a dagger you’ll be able to bitch-slap them to death.

Justino
05-03-2006, 02:25 PM
Healers won’t kill archers. Even without MP and a dagger you’ll be able to bitch-slap them to death.

Ok, buddy.

Hahn
05-03-2006, 02:38 PM
fcuking great.. c5 hates archers imo.. bishops/overlords will get a skill that "burns enemies mp". Sure its bad for nukers.. but since they have BTM, its not all that bad.. but omg.. what about us archers!? Does this mean that my SR will get owned by a friggin bishop?! FFS thats stupid! And since the casting speed will be increased I guess its just time for me to reroll eh... stupid koreans... Or heh.. maybe I need to carry a dagger if i ever wanna pwn a healer again eh? gg.. :ef_mad:

So to all you archers out there.. kill those bishops while u can! *sniff*
Casting TIME on sleep will be increased, which means it takes longer to cast sleep. Mages don't get boosts, only very minor nerfs.

EllieBelly
05-03-2006, 02:50 PM
Ha ha yeah even if an archer/nuker has no mp it'll still be a 5 minute fight of miss miss miss 50 dmg miss miss miss. I didn't -7 my STR to do better dmg in PVP and PVE.

Qina
05-03-2006, 02:52 PM
Casting TIME on sleep will be increased, which means it takes longer to cast sleep. Mages don't get boosts, only very minor nerfs.

Oh really? Well.. that just made it slightly better.. manaburn still sucks imo.. depending on how effective it will be ofcourse.. and how long delay there will be before re-using it. The sleeping time being increased is actually a good thing and might help adjusting the pvp, cause right now its rediculous how a mage can sleep an archer even before the first arrow is shot.

leogeo2
05-03-2006, 03:03 PM
I sure hope prophets dont get manaburn.. then it will be: ROOT-> mana burn -> archer useless :S
Wait lemme see, root... mana burn.. OH WAIT IM A FUCKING ARCHER I CAN SHOOT AT A RANGE?! No way I can't do that, I can bash people over the face with a bow. I guess root just made my ranged class COMPLETLY useless. Man I should reroll now shouldn't I? Gawd I can't bevlieve NCGay would make archers so fuckign useless gay gay gay blah blah blah SHUT YOUR BITCHING.

You seem to be heavily misinformed on the skill here. Mana burn does not take 100% of your mana so you will not become useless. Healers do dick for damage so don't expect to die in like 10 seconds from one. And since when could archers NOT shoot when they are rooted?

DarkMatrix
05-03-2006, 03:03 PM
Lagged post.

DarkMatrix
05-03-2006, 03:05 PM
fcuking great.. c5 hates archers imo.. bishops/overlords will get a skill that "burns enemies mp". Sure its bad for nukers.. but since they have BTM, its not all that bad.. but omg.. what about us archers!? Does this mean that my SR will get owned by a friggin bishop?! FFS thats stupid! And since the casting speed will be increased I guess its just time for me to reroll eh... stupid koreans... Or heh.. maybe I need to carry a dagger if i ever wanna pwn a healer again eh? gg.. :ef_mad:

So to all you archers out there.. kill those bishops while u can! *sniff*
Hand over your internet, you won't be needing it for where your going, to the Shortbus. First of all this the most retarded post i've seen, since when can Healers Kill Archers? Even then with manaburn what are they gonna do Kill you over a matter of 5 mins? when an archer can RUN!

On to the Sleep and Root, Get Aegis and Raidboss Rings or even get nightmare and stop bitching. Run its what archers do, DO IT.

Learn2play or reroll.

Qina
05-03-2006, 03:07 PM
Wait lemme see, root... mana burn.. OH WAIT IM A FUCKING ARCHER I CAN SHOOT AT A RANGE?! No way I can't do that, I can bash people over the face with a bow. I guess root just made my ranged class COMPLETLY useless. Man I should reroll now shouldn't I? Gawd I can't bevlieve NCGay would make archers so fuckign useless gay gay gay blah blah blah SHUT YOUR BITCHING.

Im not talking about root as if it stops me from shooting smartass.. Im talking about manaburn + root = no mana and no kiting = healer soes away.

Not that hard to get now is it O_o And the crap about you calling me misinformed.. well.. do YOU know how effective manaburn will be? Nop I dont think you do.

Diego Vargas
05-03-2006, 03:11 PM
I sure hope prophets dont get manaburn.. then it will be: ROOT-> mana burn -> archer useless :S

You know mana burn doesnt break sleep right ?

I guess you didnt know, enjoy.

Trance -> burn -> burn -> burn -> trance -> repeat

leogeo2
05-03-2006, 03:31 PM
Im not talking about root as if it stops me from shooting smartass.. Im talking about manaburn + root = no mana and no kiting = healer soes away.

Not that hard to get now is it O_o And the crap about you calling me misinformed.. well.. do YOU know how effective manaburn will be? Nop I dont think you do.

Just to point out:

Mana Burn: High chance of landing. M.atk dependent.
Sapped about 100 against unbuffed targets with Tateossean Jewllery. Sapped 400 against targets without Jewllery. Tester was using Ghoul Staff.
It's in the reported skill change thread. Also EE's and Prophets have had Return since near the beginning so them just poofing away hasn't been any different. Also I'm sure most others these days carry bsoe (not saying everyone does I'm just saying there are alot who do now.)

IcedOrka
05-03-2006, 07:11 PM
oh noes! healers will pwnzor all the archers/mages!!! reroll now!

think i still crit a healer for 3-4k~ with CoV

fatalsh0t
05-03-2006, 07:50 PM
1) In a 1v1 between a healer and archer the healer will miss do much do do any respectable damage.

2) Archers have 900 range with a bow and healers have 600 kiting wont be hard.

3) In mass pvp I doubt healers are going to drain an archers mana instead of a nukers.

Bleek
05-03-2006, 08:18 PM
healers will still get 3 shotted

A1men
05-04-2006, 02:57 AM
Archers gets BTM too in c5 btw

Patatino
05-04-2006, 11:13 AM
I get it! Since Sleep is getting nerfed Trance is basically unnerfed sleep! gogog trance!

Hahn
05-04-2006, 11:22 AM
I get it! Since Sleep is getting nerfed Trance is basically unnerfed sleep! gogog trance!
Wow, you're so smart. Can i touch you?