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BadgerBadgerBad
07-24-2006, 08:08 PM
Ive played a lot of MMos in my time most of them had their good and their bad points, and as I play more of them I'm constantly finding myself finding more flaws and less good points. So! If you could design an mmo from all your previous experiences and ideas what would it have in it!

This would be mine,
The world would be huge, I mean not DnL huge but big enough so it takes a good month or two to explore it all fully. I'm thinking about double the size of l2, and the land would be varied and full. It would just have masses of space with nothing init, think as full as the Elder Scrolls oblivion world, lots of towns things to explore. Areas which you cant get too until you've done certain things or fought through a load of mobs, dynamic weather effects like rain snow ect. Also places where you can just sit an take a break an enjoy the scenery.

It would have many different classes you can play and have a system sorta like ff11 or l2 end game where you can change your class if you are not enjoying it. There would be many different types of classes the generic warrior mage, archer, tank, healer but many many more sub routes an extra routes you can take so you can really take the class where you want it to go. Also taking different class routes will open up new areas an quests specifcly for that like taking an dark evil class will allow you to enter the darker nastier areas of the world.

Character customization this ones a must Ive played too many mmos where everyone looks the same :dwm_mad: L2 is probably the worst one for this tho ive recently started playing cabal and tht looks like it might rival it. A system like the one in age of Conan thts coming up would be perfect you can edit nose size eye color ears, sorta like the tony hawks editors where you can edit all proportions.

Armour, Jewelry and Weapons, this ones also one of the annoying things ive found in some of the new mmos. I know some ppl don't mind everyone looking the same and are just init for pvp but I also play these games to look cool :of_happy: . RfO has been really good in this area it had lots of different weapons and armour through all lvls. Tho it also does start to look samey towards the final levels. FF11 was nice for this aswell alotta customization you could do make you stand out from the crowd. Also I would keep the classic, your gonna look shit when you start this game but the higher the level you get ure gonna look cool :dwf_luv: An armour and weapons they gota look good! have a look at the SuN online screenies and you see exactly how id like to see it. Jewelry an rings could also be seen aswel.

Races, I would like to see a large range with the classic cutey race (dwarve girlys L2, moon elves on archlord, tarus ff11 ectect) the beefy race (orcs, orgers ect) the generic humans, and about or 6 other random ones, elves, golems, rabits whatever realy just something tht stands out from another race.

Transport, again I would like to see many ways to get places. Air ships, boats, trains which you can pay for and they will take you along a selected path. These things will actuly be useful aswel, think of the airships of ff11 very useful to get to places and are used alot the boat from valkurm dunes also really useful. Think l2 whens the last time you used the ship?
Also mounts an mounted combat nothing beats a good horse with a giant pole stabbing people, I know its been done before in aoc and there trying to make it even better in archlord and many of the other games.

PvP, this ones iffy I dont have any answers for this just stuff I would like to see. No I can kill all class -necro* cough, tanks are actually tanks look at rf for a good example of that some of them can tank whole armies. Atm on cabal ther seems to be a good balance of clases and on rf its the same to an extent some classes are better at killing others an visa versa. The blood system from age of Conan looks cool id add tht too :dwm_happy .The combo system from cabal also adds a nice twist to combat + its different combat stances are nice and I would like to see something added like that. Id have a hp/pot system like rf too where battles last a good while and promote teamwork rather than 1 uber person 1 shooting everything under a certain level. + minimal risks and high rewards for pvp l2 is a good system but the xp loos and the threat of item losses puts a lot of people off pvp who simply cant afford the risk/time. I mean dieing should have some consequence but not as harsh.

Xp rates well this ones a tricky one id like to see them not as low as l2s are but not as high as WoW. I cant tell you exactly but if the game gets to the point where its 12hrs work for 1% thats where I dont want it to be at. Also penalties for dieing id like to see like cabal, penalties on health and stats for awhile not an xp loss that's gonna take you 10 hours to get back.

Economy and drop rates, exactly like rfo would be fine where its not hard to get items and level at the same time doesn't promote mass ebaying like some other games we know.

Random extras, takable castles like L2, set pvp events like rfos chipwars, raid bosses an instanced dungeons like WoW. Guild alliances, wars like l2 guild ranks like l2 is introducing. Random harder mobs that pop like ff11, wandering npcs that give quests help or hinder you. Play built citys, residences like DnL may eventaly have or like horizions did!

Well that's all I can think of for now there's a few other things I would add but getting tired!

P.S im not some research guy from another up an coming mmo btw lol :dwm_happy just bored and wondering if you could make your perfect mmo wat would it have init!

Forums
07-24-2006, 08:47 PM
- A good storyline
- Great graphics
- Great music
- A big variety of options for character customization
- A big variety of options for graphics, controls, sound etc
- ONE server if possible
- Less lag
- A good variety of classes & races
- Good quests
- Good economy
- Some transportation vehicles ,animals or teleporters even
- PvP is a "MUST HAVE"
- Sieges, Land-Grabs or something every week or every 2 weeks at least with a good timeline
- A large variety of weapons, armors, jewelery etc
- Game bosses
- In & Out-side game events
- Allways bringing new and entertaining updates without gimping the characters badly
- Good support
- Allways having at least one GM online all the time actually willing to help you
- Great community
- The posibility of creating a group, clan, society ... (depends on the storyline)
- Good in-game recorder
- If the game uses a real-life currency than they should offer the possibility of withdrawing the money from you account at anytime and with a small % (or not at all)
- A forum or another service for the community to talk outside the game or with the creators of the game

These should be the minimum requirements :P


I guess that's about it for me ... :)
Oh yeah ... and NO FARMERS :)

Shatei
07-24-2006, 11:50 PM
how about a game that i don't have to kill 50,000 wolves to level up.

Magus
07-25-2006, 01:22 AM
how about a game that i don't have to kill 50,000 wolves to level up.

You can play Lineage 2.

Nox
07-25-2006, 02:10 AM
UO before pub 16.

ivol
07-25-2006, 03:52 AM
L2 with good support and banned cheaters is my perfect mmo.

*CCCP*
07-26-2006, 03:07 PM
Pink dorfs thats a must, ohh they have too look very cute also...ohhh who am I fooling, let em have big b00bies also. Ok so lets see here we got ourselves some knee high persons, that are so stacked that they makes Pam Anderson look liek a innocent little school girl.

Hmm what else, ohh yeah inactive GMs that never do playerbased services, so its easier to cheat. Preferable a hillarious low drop rate of items and a large player base that are willing to pay top $$ for ingame currency.

x3 :silly_dorf_smiles:

LastJedi
07-26-2006, 03:45 PM
just give me D2 in a MMO setting and graphics like L2.

Fantasmoo
07-26-2006, 05:03 PM
L2 is the perfect mmo imo... L2 has open field pvp option... it covers for so many problems.. of course getting rid of farmers and bots would be great... but it's the only problem i find in L2...

*CCCP*
07-27-2006, 04:06 AM
the only problem being the bots and the farmers in L2, yeah rite big lol.

Here's just a small list I could figure up while eating my breakfast.

L2 problem list
# Lack of end game content
# Lack of customization
# Lack of originality
# Lack of active GMs
# Lack stabile servers
# Lack of stem :P (it's the lame drop rate that in the long run makes alot of people ebay)
# Lack of variations in the grind
# Unbalanced pvp (since they introduced tattoes and SA for weapons)

Sure it has free open field pvp, so what. I rather play a game that's faction based and have the above listed problems fixed. Trust me in the long run it would be a great game and the game play value very nice. Guess why so many oldschool people quit this game, and most of those are just hanging around cuz they feel giving up on there char = sad. And prolly #1 reason for still staying in the game = friends. Alot of the people I have talked to would easily quit if most of there friends quit. The game itself dont have enought quality to make em stay.

Yeah I know what u are thinking - so what you just go play wow then. OMFG ROFL nub, that game is so 2005 and no tnx if I want to have a good time I would do drugs and hang out in Toy R Us = same experience as to play wow :P Hmm feels liek I lost the track of myself now

:silly_carebear_smiley:

Silo
07-27-2006, 04:24 AM
L2 with 10x rates and under the control of blizzard (well anyone else but ncsoft)

*CCCP*
07-27-2006, 05:07 AM
You make me hard :dwf_luv:

Denito(WTT)
07-27-2006, 05:13 AM
l2
higher rates
more people
less PK penalties
more badasses

*CCCP*
07-27-2006, 07:56 AM
merge kain with bartz, then u will have enough bad asses to go around so it will last a life time. I bet the drama will be taken to another lvl. Mmm they should make a pure WESTERN SERVER. F0ck that korean bs-carebear-grind for 111 million hours.

Psy
07-27-2006, 10:52 AM
the pvp of la2
the pve of wow
the equipment of diablo2
Both Eu and US servers
Expansions that u need to buy(keeps the support alive)
and support that isen't 60 monkeys with 2 buttons infront of em

small
07-27-2006, 11:14 AM
BALANCED PVP...
3X drop 2X XP rates... (still a long grind and hard to get money even with these)



thsoe two would fix L2 alot

soltys
07-27-2006, 11:22 AM
perfect mmo - for starters - no pointless, idiotic grind ; dynamic alterable world (physically and story-wise) ; decent balance

Magus
07-27-2006, 11:37 AM
Perfect MMO -

One that doesn't have thousands of users logging onto a forum that isn't even official and just bitch up a storm in every thread.

negativezero
07-27-2006, 01:20 PM
CS in a world the size of Oblivion.

seriously... it's time to cross fps with mmorpgs.

*CCCP*
07-27-2006, 01:35 PM
Hmm I dont know if u have noticed they are developing a game liek that - called Huxley. Biggest downside is that its korean based so gg...Altough it looks pretty cool so keep an eye out for it. Havent read anything about it, so yeah cant speak for it. Just googled some stuff for ya :P

Huxley is a massively multiplayer online first-person shooting game (MMOFPS) developed by the H-Studio of global online entertainment company, WEBZEN Inc. Huxley takes place in a post-apocalyptic world where human beings have mutated and are divided into two opposing races, Sapiens and Alternative. At the center of the battle for survival is Lunarites, a promising new energy source that both sides seek to obtain. Forced to battle against one another for the continuance of each race, Sapiens and Alternatives are willing to do whatever it takes to wipe out the conflicting race and gain control of the world and its resources.

Source : webzengames.com (http://www.webzengames.com/Game/Huxley/)

Some movies are located here
http://www.huxleygame.com/huxley_movies.htm

http://www.2weird.co.uk/files/images/huxley/screenshots/huxley_screenshot_17.jpg

Xipicau_Boy
07-27-2006, 04:17 PM
Problems are lack of support (GMs simply don't exist), unbalanced PvP (ranged pwn all) and the fvcking farmers/ebayers.
Grind isn't a problem, grind is good, at least you can learn to master your skills while playing a looong time with them.

Draxius
07-27-2006, 06:26 PM
Well basically a total remake of L2, lol. For example:

Good Graphics and character models. Much like L2, but you could even go a little more updated, but I don't want any clay looking shit. The models of L2 are nice!

A main story driven quest (different for all races, but still where some races can party togeather to accomplish that quest). A bunch of meaningful side story quests that aren't about kill 50 wolves and bring me back their ballz and I pay you 2 peices of shit that isn't worth anything.

Balanced PvP, but not technically where evey class can beat another class! Make it based off a weapons and skills used and not just whoever has more m.attk or p.attk. Also it would be nice to actually be able to beat someone with pvp skill instead of better gear and lvls. Gear and lvls will be importaint, but what I mean is a lvl 50 could still beat a lvl 58, but the lvl 58 would have the advantage in having more lvls, but still if the 50 was better at pvp, he would win.

Not an outrageous grind. And not a grind that is ghey like WoW. Like the OP said, something in between. For example the grind in L2 wouldn't be bad if everyone was legit, because then everyone would be lower level and have the equal amount of chance to get gear and levels without cheating. Those that do make it to hero status, would be super hardcore players, instead of super hardcore botters/ebayer/cheaters.

Also death penalty while PVPing is good, with less of a penalty for PvE. Like when killed in PvP you become weak towards other players for a certain amount of time. When killed in PvE you health and whatnot drops for a certain amount of time.

Lagless servers! Great Support! A solid game that would take actual hacking to cheat. No bots could be developed for it. Every class would be fun to play!

So basically an updated L2, that some developer actually uses some creativity and gives a rats ass about cheaters. Where they won't make bunny ears and pimp hats but instead work on making it impossible to cheat and fun for everyone. Where the game is recreation, and not a life!

tapanegro
07-27-2006, 08:04 PM
lookin into this new game called Aion: Tower of Eternity that NC Soft is workin on.

Looks pretty good if u watch the video. Looks like the game has the graphics of L2 but the gameplay and concept of WoW.

Its basically 3 factions. Angels, Demons and Dragons. Angels vs. Demons and the Dragons are just NPC's.

If one side of the power gets too strong, the Dragons will ally up with the underdog and fight the stronger power. The gameplay vid looks pretty sick and theyre using a new engine. Forgot what u call it but yeah. Might wanna check that out in www.plaync.com.

So yeah, thats kinda the idea i was lookin for of maybe a "dream game" but yeah well see. We all know how NC Soft just fucks evrything up. Hopefully it will be better than L2. It might be a good time to move into a new game. :ef_happy:

soltys
07-27-2006, 11:44 PM
Grind isn't a problem, grind is good, at least you can learn to master your skills while playing a looong time with them.

You need at most few hours to "learn" how to use a new skill in PvE. Unless someone is a braindead monkey with other problems.

Denito(WTT)
07-28-2006, 01:45 AM
oh oh MMORPG with hack and slash melee's and FPS archers and mages, that'd be pimp