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OrcD3vil
07-23-2005, 03:24 PM
Ok after taking a look at the set bonus that the armors give you at C and B grade I was wondering why so many people will go BW Heavy instead of Doom Heavy. The Pdef is better with Doom along with the Patt bonus it makes up for the -STR and it gives +Dev which makes you attack faster.. So I hear that you see like 10 Pattack less with Doom then BW but you attack faster and have more PDef. The +4 STR can't make BW that much better then Doom since you attack slower.
So again why would you wear BW Heavy instead of Doom Heavy when playing a Tyrant. Just my notice I can see that you would want to have better P Attack but if your Pattack Speed is faster it would make up for Less P Attack because your hitting Faster.
OrcD3vil
the only b armor i have seen tyrants use is either bw heavy or doom light.
OrcD3vil
07-23-2005, 04:05 PM
Here are the Set Bonus's that are listed on the Offical Lineage 2 Webpage.
Blue Wolf Heavy
Speed +7
HP Regeneration +5.24%
STR +3
CON -1
DEX -2
Blue Wolf Light
P. Def. +5.24%
Casting Spd. +15%
INT -2
MEN +3
WIT -1
Doom Heavy
HP +320
Breath Gauge increased
STR -3
CON +3
With a Doom Shield, shield defense rate +24%
Doom Light
Breath Gauge increased
P. Atk. +2.7%
MP Regeneration +2.5%
STR -1
CON -2
DEX +3
Poision Resistance +20%
So from looking at all this there is NO way any Tyrant should be using Doom Heavy or Blue Wolf Heavy. With the -3 STR from Doom Heavy you will be doing alot less Damage then without the Set Bonus. Blue Wolf Heavy nerfs the Dex and Con.. Now the Con we can take -1 without that much problem but with the -2 Dex that is insane since the Tyrants are dependant on Speedy Attacks.. We beat the shit outta yea and get the fuck out. Now the Blue Wolf Light doesn't do anything to really affect our HP/Attack so its not really bad for us so I can see using the Blue Wolf Light because its all good from what I know. But the Doom Light has the -STR but has the P Attack which counters each other with maybe like -10 of the total P Attack you have which isn't Bad. Now it also has -2 Con which isn't good for us be we have more HP then Elves, Dark Elves, and Humans of the same Class along with more HP then all that are Tanks in the other Classes execpt for Human Tanks.. I saw a 61 Sws with like 4.1k HP I know with my 43 Tyrant I had base of like 2.4k I think it was then with Orge Totem it was like 3.1k. The nice thing about Doom Light is they give +3 to Dex which will increase our RAW Attack speed along with our 2 Speed Buffs already that is were the actions is. So tell me why everyone uses Blue Wolf Heavy when it nerfs our attack speed so much. Sure the added Attack Power is nice along with +7 to run speed but we get +7 Run speed with Agile Movement as a passive skill with Light armor so whats up with wearing the heavy so much?
OrcD3vil
marie
07-23-2005, 04:21 PM
agile movement is a c3 thing they didnt have that in c2 when heavy armor was the trend. from reading the pvp forums it seems having more hp by any mean in pvp is kind of a fotm thing so doom heavy yeah, further multiplied by ogre from what i read. and the natural high pdef of heavy armor also getting ridiculously high when using the good totem
bw light is designed to be a healer pvp armor so you wouldnt really benefit it. bw heavy is most definitely made for heavy dd, the hit in patk speed is pretty insignificant compared to patk gain
tyrant really seem an interresting class to play with potential to use if you got the skills, i would have loved to take that as subclass but i really cant stand the elf female stance with fist weapons. it look like her spine is broken, i feel pain only looking at my character
platinumdrgn
07-23-2005, 04:49 PM
my tyrant is gonna WTFPWN U!
Doom Light/Dark Crystal Light/Tallum heavy FTW
and +10 Fist Blade w/ Haste FTW = Blood Tornado w/ haste (A grade)
Hellrazah
07-23-2005, 05:11 PM
I liked Blue Wolf light over Doom light.
OrcD3vil
07-23-2005, 05:17 PM
Leave it to Plat to shit talk a old friend LOL.. Plat you still suck LOL.. Nah man its been a long time I remember back when you were a Lowbie and me and you were argueing over the pit in EG where the Zombies were there.. They were the only ones giving decent Exp and they dropped Metallic Thread Tukker needed so I went and tried pushing you out so I could hunt for him lol.. Plat for Pres of Devianne...!!!!
OrcD3vil
Garelius
07-24-2005, 12:43 AM
Comming from a tyrant there is two armours that has anny meening in use
Doom ligth (b-grade) Plated leather (cgrade)
platinumdrgn
07-24-2005, 12:49 AM
meh...me and Ewn ownd EG!
but seriously...my tyrant shall PWN you!
you only use hvy armor if ur gonna tank 4 a grp...other than that its doom light/dark crystal light
and for the wierd ppl nightmare light.
defensive armors are for panzies :)
why let urself die slower when u can just kill them faster!
GOSH! so many carebears :twisted:
soon as i get me tyrant ready we shall 1v1 and you shall :phear: me!
OrcD3vil
07-24-2005, 02:16 AM
Plat let me know when your ready and I'll make sure I"m up there in level for yea we'll have fun PVPing each other.. Yea Plated Leather is what I was looking at for C when I get back and Doom Light/Heavy for when I hit B Grade.. A grade was Dark Crystal I could never understand why someone would go with Nightmare Set.
But hey when I get back I'm going to have fun Leveling with my Prophet and fucking anyone up that crosses my path and tries to screw with me. I hear there are still lots of griefers aroudn so I'll be having fun killing them for the hell of it.
OrcD3vil
platinumdrgn
07-24-2005, 02:40 AM
its on like donkey Kong!
deusX
07-25-2005, 12:10 AM
Actually, for melee BW hvy will be better. Me and another tyrant of equal lvl have tested hit for hit the differences between Doom light and BW Heavy. BW Hvy all around won. I personally am weaing BW light now in order to learn how to better fight archers, but when i was in melee pvp, BW hvy won me more pvps than any other armour. Get your self a nice set of +5 to +6 enchanted Bellions with BW Heavy and fight melee. Tell me what you think then, because i know from expereince that it freaking owns hard core and the difference between the Doom Light and BW Hvy atk spd is so small its not going to make a huge impact. Doom Light is great, but u take such a sacrifice in con and str. BW Light is great because you maintain you original HP and CP stats plus you get a great pdef bonus with it and you gain Agile movement with a bit of MP gain. BW Hvy with a good enchanted grade b weapon will make for great damage dealing in melee fighting. Zubei, which i have also had, is great for evasion and pve evasion tanking. Its a cool armour to play with. Doom Hvy, well lets just say for a DD class, if your weaing Doom hvy, your a fvcking moron because your not a tank and the bonuses for that set do you absolutly no good at all. And garelius, if anyone uses plated lether (c grade) when they are 52+++, I would smack the hell out of them for doing that. For 40-52 thats a great option.
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