prochoice vs prolife

[MetalHeart]

which one? lets have a real discussion like forums are supposed to be.

[IC-AENIMA]

your a homo

[charlie-a-lee]

pro not this thread.

[DADWARF]

Pro - stitute

[IC-AENIMA]

Pro - this thread is going to get locked

[xsanctom]

Pro - your mum.

[MetalHeart]

LOLOLOLOL so much for an intellegent discussion. deep down i knew there was little to no intellegence on these forums ^_________________________^

[Elvithril]

Prochoice. I'm pretty liberal on abortion for being a euro, I guess I'm a radical guy in the US.

Edit: Haven't slept for too long, typed prolife instead of prochoice.

[MetalHeart]

/agreed Prolife, if your gonna go have kids take responsability

[Elvithril]

My bad, I'm prochoice, just typed the wrong thing. I don't think of embryos as fully fledged life until they're a couple of months old.

[MetalHeart]

My bad, I'm prochoice, just typed the wrong thing. I don't think of embryos as fully fledged life until they're a couple of months old.

/disagree killing an embryo is still killing.

Pro life if ur a stupid whore dumb enough not to wear protection and to have a baby.. fucking raise it.. dont kill it. However on occasions such as rape and getting pregnant or something of that source.. possibly prochoice..

[Elvithril]

It's a matter of opinion, I guess. I can see why some will look upon it as life, but then again, an embryo at 3 months of age is more similar to a piglet than a human baby.

It's certainly life in one way, shape or form, but is it necessarily at the level of human life? I don't think so. Killing animals is ok as long as it's done in a humane way, and that's my take on abortion as well.

[MetalHeart]

Pro life if ur a stupid whore dumb enough not to wear protection and to have a baby.. fucking raise it.. dont kill it. However on occasions such as rape and getting pregnant or something of that source.. possibly prochoice..

though you have a point, the baby can still be put up for adoption (if theres extremely no other way) or have relatives help you raise it. i know if one of my friends were raped id help them raise their kid id rather help than have it killed.

[Junglist]

until you are in the situation i dont think anyone should be able to make the decision. i am married and have a 3 yo daughter
about a year before we got pregnant with isabella my wife got pregnant and i was very much on the side of prochoice as i was not really stable enough to raise a child and my wife and i werent married at that point. luckily she had a miscarriage which could be looked at as an asshole thing to say but it was a wake up call to me and made it possible for us to be better suited to raise a child later.

[Elvithril]

That's a good point, but then again both solutions may cause problems. Many adopted children develop psychological problems due not knowing their "real" family. Some who have learned the truth after growing up have even committed suicide. Should the mother raise the child with the help of relatives she might develop psychological problems for a number of reasons, the most common being that they always associate their kid with a rape. This might also cause her to not love the child in the way every kid deserves.

Still, it's a good point. It's not like it happens to the majority.

I do, however, maintain that abortion should be an option no matter what the reason for the pregnancy might be. I value the right to be in control of your own life more than a life which I do not consider to be human. (meaning an embryo of less than 3 months of age)

[MetalHeart]

until you are in the situation i dont think anyone should be able to make the decision. i am married and have a 3 yo daughter
about a year before we got pregnant with isabella my wife got pregnant and i was very much on the side of prochoice as i was not really stable enough to raise a child and my wife and i werent married at that point. luckily she had a miscarriage which could be looked at as an asshole thing to say but it was a wake up call to me and made it possible for us to be better suited to raise a child later.

I just think the idea of taking life because of being irresponsible as sick. But ofcourse if you were to face this you would consider both options.

[MetalHeart]

That's a good point, but then again both solutions may cause problems. Many adopted children develop psychological problems due not knowing their "real" family. Some who have learned the truth after growing up have even committed suicide. Should the mother raise the child with the help of relatives she might develop psychological problems for a number of reasons, the most common being that they always associate their kid with a rape. This might also cause her to not love the child in the way every kid deserves.

Still, it's a good point. It's not like it happens to the majority.

I do, however, maintain that abortion should be an option no matter what the reason for the pregnancy might be. I value the right to be in control of your own life more than a life which I do not consider to be human. (meaning an embryo of less than 3 months of age)

I guess it also depends on what you consider life, like you said you dont consider an embryo less than 3 months life, others might.

[Elvithril]

I just think the idea of taking life because of being irresponsible as sick. But ofcourse if you were to face this you would consider both options.

I am, as stated above, prochoice, but I agree that it's an extremely difficult decision to make in any case. It's easy to get emotionally attached to something/someone you've done 50% of the creation of. Also, there's the uncertainty involved. No one knows for sure what the future shows, and in cases like this one it's impossible to tell which choice is the best, simply because you'll never know what would've happened if you chose differently.

[MetalHeart]

A great discussion Elvi and Junglist, i gotta get ingame.

[Kaysee]

females opinion.... prolife

[MetalHeart]

females opinion.... prolife

<3 your a good person kaysee


edit: not saying that if your prochoice your a badperson...

[uber.]

I don't like to get so much into the morality and hotly debated issues such as this on just a Lineage 2 board, but I'd have to agree with Elvi and his prochoice stance. Some people make wrong decisions. We all make them, because we're human, and sometimes these actions can have severe reprecussions on the rest of our lives. For example, if a girl sleeps around and happens to get pregnant, she should have the option to abort that embryo, as she is not mentally, emotionally, or financially prepared to take care of this child. Would you rather have her have a kid and struggle to give him a life he deserves? Or would you rather her put him in the care of an adoption agency so that all his life he'd wonder the enigma of his past?

You may think the point that something is 'living' is at the moment of conception; therefore, aborting an embryo at its early stages would be like 'killing a person'. Let me ask you, what defines a human being? Perhaps the ability to feel and sense? The capacity to think on its own? Autonomy? Based on my perspective, an early term embryo does not have any of these characteristics and it would be wrong to label it as a 'human being' already.

It's the woman's life and her child that will be affected by her actions, and she should have the choice and the right to determine the best interest of the baby and herself.

[uber.]

Going to sleep now, was looking forward to a response, but i'll check in the morning. G'nite.

[MetalHeart]

I don't like to get so much into the morality and hotly debated issues such as this on just a Lineage 2 board, but I'd have to agree with Elvi and his prochoice stance. Some people make wrong decisions. We all make them, because we're human, and sometimes these actions can have severe reprecussions on the rest of our lives. For example, if a girl sleeps around and happens to get pregnant, she should have the option to abort that embryo, as she is not mentally, emotionally, or financially prepared to take care of this child. Would you rather have her have a kid and struggle to give him a life he deserves? Or would you rather her put him in the care of an adoption agency so that all his life he'd wonder the enigma of his past?

You may think the point that something is 'living' is at the moment of conception; therefore, aborting an embryo at its early stages would be like 'killing a person'. Let me ask you, what defines a human being? Perhaps the ability to feel and sense? The capacity to think on its own? Autonomy? Based on my perspective, an early term embryo does not have any of these characteristics and it would be wrong to label it as a 'human being' already.

It's the woman's life and her child that will be affected by her actions, and she should have the choice and the right to determine the best interest of the baby and herself.

About the wrong choices i say this, what if later you regret having an abortion becuase it was the wrong choice?

I never said anything about killing a human being and never labled an embryo as human being but it does have life.

a nice try at twisting the last human being part into your perspective though.