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eric
11-03-2006, 11:22 PM
Well, Eric. I dont get your point. Of cause there is always someone running around "in a clusterfuck of zergs and not getting killed" in a 27+ vs 27+ until one team is entirely wiped.

And yes, it takes a bit longer if people take rezes, not only once.
Bartz has its fast fights, even 18+ vs 18+. Maybe one of my clanmates can post a fraps of those fights.

Im sorry dvp, sadly this thread became the playfield for kaintards to teach Bartz how to pvp :I

watch pvp videos from your own server, then explain why people were allowed to be scroll res'ed and melee classes running into enemy groups while totally ignored

eric
11-03-2006, 11:23 PM
btw dvp what tats do u have on your HE, all i saw was con tats O.o

and god damn your wartags are retarded...

mec
11-04-2006, 04:33 AM
watch pvp videos from your own server, then explain why people were allowed to be scroll res'ed and melee classes running into enemy groups while totally ignored

No, you should watch them.. The hotsprings in our last movie is a perfect example that you cant do much when a whole alliance rushes you..

Why would anyone go for an melee when everyone rushes them? You cant kite back when you get rushed cause some slower(read healers/nukers) WILL die in the long run. So what you have to do is fight back and hence the 'cluster fuck' of people.

And you know, there is still a somewhat flag war these days and getting off the first good aoe can decide if you lose or win a fight. But I dont expect someone like you to have any clue about that anyway..

NhoZ
11-04-2006, 05:13 AM
watch pvp videos from your own server, then explain why people were allowed to be scroll res'ed and melee classes running into enemy groups while totally ignored

Good Lord! What now? Isnt it your server preaching the melee is totally gimp since they are none of the "we-rock-with-900-range-d00d"-classes? Not that melee is useless but yes, usually there is a better target to drop n a tank or warrior-class. Take that as your answer why they are alive until late into the fight.

Scrollrezing? BD/SWS rezing a healer? Yeah, good to kill em while tossing off the rez. You do me the math and figure how long it takes to kill a buffed and UD:ed SWS. Long? A bit maybe. Hope you can agree that its atleast faster to kill the rez:ed healer. If you are refering to our "lolololBartzClusterFuck"-fight at Baium, just keep track of Paxil (Cardinal) in that fight.

eric
11-04-2006, 05:22 AM
No, you should watch them.. The hotsprings in our last movie is a perfect example that you cant do much when a whole alliance rushes you..

Why would anyone go for an melee when everyone rushes them? You cant kite back when you get rushed cause some slower(read healers/nukers) WILL die in the long run. So what you have to do is fight back and hence the 'cluster fuck' of people.

And you know, there is still a somewhat flag war these days and getting off the first good aoe can decide if you lose or win a fight. But I dont expect someone like you to have any clue about that anyway..

can't kite back? you talk like as if all your clannies are all ranged classes. its been since day 1 that melee classes are suppose to take out anyone that steps too close to ranged classes/healers. and if you say that the cluster fuck of people is caused by enemy alliance rushing, then why are the ranged classes always all over the place instead of firing at the back

dvp
11-04-2006, 05:23 AM
i know why they allowing all that rezzes @ bartz
they want to get more fragz during one fight :P

eric
11-04-2006, 05:25 AM
Good Lord! What now? Isnt it your server preaching the melee is totally gimp since they are none of the "we-rock-with-900-range-d00d"-classes? Not that melee is useless but yes, usually there is a better target to drop n a tank or warrior-class. Take that as your answer why they are alive until late into the fight.

Scrollrezing? BD/SWS rezing a healer? Yeah, good to kill em while tossing off the rez. You do me the math and figure how long it takes to kill a buffed and UD:ed SWS. Long? A bit maybe. Hope you can agree that its atleast faster to kill the rez:ed healer. If you are refering to our "lolololBartzClusterFuck"-fight at Baium, just keep track of Paxil (Cardinal) in that fight.

1. never said melee was useless
2. who said you need to kill the bd/sws that is res'ing, all you need is an interrupt and all you need is 1 archer crit and you have that accomplished.

Kularus
11-04-2006, 05:33 AM
1. never said melee was useless
2. who said you need to kill the bd/sws that is res'ing, all you need is an interrupt and all you need is 1 archer crit and you have that accomplished. ye rez scrolls are expensive can't have more than one.

eric
11-04-2006, 05:38 AM
if you let ppl res your healers with scrolls you might as well not kill their healer at all

eric
11-04-2006, 05:38 AM
btw dvp what tats do u have on your HE, all i saw was con tats O.o

bump for dvp

mec
11-04-2006, 05:51 AM
can't kite back? you talk like as if all your clannies are all ranged classes. its been since day 1 that melee classes are suppose to take out anyone that steps too close to ranged classes/healers. and if you say that the cluster fuck of people is caused by enemy alliance rushing, then why are the ranged classes always all over the place instead of firing at the back

Not only ranged classes are fast and have skills that can slow people.

Everyone knows that you cant split up your force in pvp, that would be stupid. So its either 900 range archer/nuker fight or close range and using your melee and aoe skills.. Go figure whats more effective..

dvp
11-04-2006, 05:54 AM
btw dvp what tats do u have on your HE, all i saw was con tats O.o

made +5 con for some reasons >.<
will turn it back to 36 dex when mammons appear :>

Kularus
11-04-2006, 06:04 AM
if you let ppl res your healers with scrolls you might as well not kill their healer at all

I think its about time this thread degraded into lol battletournament since you've proven that you have no idea how pvp in terms of 3ish grps vs 3ish grps works. Stick to your 9 man bot train assisting and pvping someone elsing 9 man bot train bud.

Lance
11-04-2006, 06:09 AM
I'm getting very tired of Kain's constant bitching and pointless arguments every time Bartz releases a vid :dwm_swt:

Anyone?

We heard your opinion and tbh we don't care :/

dvp
11-04-2006, 06:16 AM
guys, GTFO from my movie thread with ur forum pvp
go there and spam each other to death ^^
http://l2guru.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1515545#post1515545
if u watched vid just post some sh1t about it
if not shuddup and download :P

Inno
11-04-2006, 07:45 AM
Dvp u biatch, u hit an a grade sk for 900 dmg with normal dagger crit! And it was front slap. I hope u will go to hell after playing your he even once again, u're better as a th. I'm not gonna flame u for ebaying but remember: for every unnecessary cp pot u drink while full, a poor child from a third world country could eat a dinner...
Overall good movie. I'd take yours and dlm's over bartz's anyday.

Oldirty
11-04-2006, 08:03 AM
WTB server transfer so we could do a epic 9v9/18v18/27v27 vs the awesome kain pvp gods........
....and suddenley dvp appears and kills both parties XD

j/k

Inno
11-04-2006, 08:08 AM
....and suddenley dvp appears and kills both parties XD

j/k

I'm afraid dlm and Zariche would get there faster...

michelgaetano
11-04-2006, 08:10 AM
for every unnecessary cp pot u drink while full, a poor child from a third world country could eat a dinner...

who the hell cares, ncsoft's fault :P

what shocked me was the +5 dex -5 con on the adventurer:o

all daggers usually low their str ( even -9 ) to boost dex and con

can you explain that dvp? :D

the only reason i found for that, was the fact that the dmg from 32 str to 41 str could change a lot ( i mean like...uhm 300-500? more or less :E ) with that oe AS crit dmg and AQ ring + Zaken, but less con means low hp/cp and u should suffer more stuns ( even though...i saw u got antharas earring :ef_luv2: which stacks with zaken and makes u something unstunnable :o ) .

besides due to your great equip u can take more damage, maybe this allows you to lower your con.

or just you haven't hit 78 yet, and you will lower str when u will get critical power

pls make it clear, if you can share these infos :))

oh, get frintezza's necklace pls :ef_luv2: :ef_luv2: :ef_luv2:

KniX
11-04-2006, 08:11 AM
Yo dvp, nice Bind u got on ur scroll there, non stop CP Pots, looks fucking hilarious.

You seriously Dont need a healer xD


Reason to why u have more con: So you can carry more fucking pots than adena, have fun playing a screwd game where noobs admire you, rofl.

Osaka
11-04-2006, 08:47 AM
who the hell cares, ncsoft's fault :P

what shocked me was the +5 dex -5 con on the adventurer:o

all daggers usually low their str ( even -9 ) to boost dex and con

can you explain that dvp? :D

the only reason i found for that, was the fact that the dmg from 32 str to 41 str could change a lot ( i mean like...uhm 300-500? more or less :E ) with that oe AS crit dmg and AQ ring + Zaken, but less con means low hp/cp and u should suffer more stuns ( even though...i saw u got antharas earring :ef_luv2: which stacks with zaken and makes u something unstunnable :o ) .

besides due to your great equip u can take more damage, maybe this allows you to lower your con.

or just you haven't hit 78 yet, and you will lower str when u will get critical power

pls make it clear, if you can share these infos :))

oh, get frintezza's necklace pls :ef_luv2: :ef_luv2: :ef_luv2:

He doesnt - his strength because if you've seen some of his movies, you see that he uses his drac/w focus alot. He also crits people for over 1k dmg just hitting them normally.

dvp
11-04-2006, 09:50 AM
not -str cuz of my playstyle, i still archer in soul
and TH in this build can do the sh1t with Drac Bow, especially when slowed
i know many peeps think thats retarded, but i dont care :D

michelgaetano
11-04-2006, 11:14 AM
damn, it's true i forgot thew mighty bow

now i understand :P

gz for the 5k+ frags

Clay
11-04-2006, 12:34 PM
downloading.,,

esche
11-04-2006, 01:07 PM
watching this video made me realize even more how shitty the new cp spam is