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TYRREL_
10-22-2007, 06:11 AM
http://i23.tinypic.com/21mt72s.jpg

this should help me run more clients right :) now i use Gforce 6600 and 512 ram etc =( this is gonna help huh? just ordered it :D

Psy
10-22-2007, 06:32 AM
would rather get a 8800gts and some pc6400 ram plus make sure if u go sli that the rails on the PSu got enough juice. A singel 8600 need 24 A minimum pr rail.

whats the cpu btw ?

TYRREL_
10-22-2007, 08:15 AM
intelpentium 4 socket 775 intel

Psy
10-22-2007, 08:15 AM
man get core 2 duo

pentium 4 is a joke

TYRREL_
10-22-2007, 08:16 AM
well if i would go 8800 gtx,i would still need to get another motherboard and another net (how do u say it on english) netadepter??
and rammemmorys right? cause my old one cant support directx10 and cant provide enough power...

MooMooCow
10-22-2007, 07:30 PM
well if i would go 8800 gtx,i would still need to get another motherboard and another net (how do u say it on english) netadepter??
and rammemmorys right? cause my old one cant support directx10 and cant provide enough power...

First of all, memory(RAM) doesn't care if you're running DX8 or DX10.

Second, the 650i can support an 8800GTX/GTS.

Third, the 650i should have a NIC card built in.

Fourth, the 8800 GTS is far better than a 8600GT.

TreasureDuDe
10-22-2007, 08:02 PM
whats the point of getting a dx10 card right now when there r like no dx10 games out yet? by the time some good dx10 games come out there will be like a new high end card thats like way better and then the 8800 and then the 8800 will go down in price, im gonna wait lol

THC
10-22-2007, 08:13 PM
That PSU will be the end of your system.

Disciple20
10-22-2007, 09:19 PM
Processor ( Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E6750 (2x 2.66GHz/4MB L2 Cache/1333FSB) )

Processor Cooling ( [=== Silent ===] Extreme-Performance INTEL CPU Cooling Fan System Kit Silent & Overclocking Proof = Maximum cooling efficiency for quietness and performance )

Motherboard ( Asus P5N-E SLI nForceŽ 650i SLI Chipset w/6-channel CODEC, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, IEEE-1394 Dual PCI-E MB )

Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT 512MB w/DVI + TV Out Video )
Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA )

Hard Drive ( [Special !!!] 200 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 8M Cache] )

windows xp pro pack 2

Disciple20
10-22-2007, 09:20 PM
1.5 gb ram

that allright?

MooMooCow
10-23-2007, 01:09 AM
whats the point of getting a dx10 card right now when there r like no dx10 games out yet? by the time some good dx10 games come out there will be like a new high end card thats like way better and then the 8800 and then the 8800 will go down in price, im gonna wait lol

You're missing the point, it's not about DX 10, it's about the performance in DX9 with those cards.

TYRREL_
10-23-2007, 03:53 AM
hm, what i meant was, like have u seen crytec's " crysis " its probably the best graphical game out there right now, every little stone has a modell and polys for it and the graphic is INSANE sometimes u cant see whats real or not, my point was, i HAD to buy a new motherboard anyway to support a 8800/8600 cause it wasent powerful enough, even without SLI i had to buy another new Ace raw 650w to support the comp with enough power without bursting in flames xD
-- also
with the new motherboard i support Direct X 10 wich is just another good bonus,a nd hell its gonna be fun to try it out :)
i could do the 8800, true but they are so insane in price atm..

Psy
10-23-2007, 06:28 AM
8800 is fucking cheap ... u wanna know how much it was 14 months ago when i got one ?
Recommended specs are a 8800 and recommended is the same as lowest playabel setting.
8600 got lower bitrate which means alot. It got less ram than the 640mb 8800 and more ram = higher res textures and higher resolutions(and 8800GTS can be oced over a GTX just to add that ontop).

Imo dont hold ya breath for crysis. No game is the big son of a bitch of the current generation that change specs very much(well there are some that require alot but they are badly programmed). Graphics is evolving slowly by all the things that they invent over time. And dx 10 doesnt change the graphics much but is more performance helping cause it gives easier acces for the memory etc etc.

What i wanna say is that crysis is overhyped by the "insane" specs it has. Prove me wrong that it will be realsed played...multiplayer sucks.. graphics is nice... game is forgotten. New graph abilitys are copied to new games. Code is made better and require less.

TYRREL_
10-23-2007, 07:01 AM
lol u make me depressedm... :S

Psy
10-23-2007, 09:13 AM
just allways remember u get what u pay for. Dont really need to tell u more about computers. 8600 is budget.

Merilya
10-23-2007, 11:43 AM
L2 is unreal 1 Engine which means it (almost) only scales with CPU / Memory speeds. Crysis on the other hand will run better with the 8800.. not sure if it's SLI optimized but if it is you'll be just fine with the 2x 8600gts. I'd upgrade CPU as fast as i could though :o

Judas
10-23-2007, 12:09 PM
L2 is components of the unreal 1 engine (very little mind) it's baised on the unreal 2 engine (version 2.x) which supports DirectX 9.0c.

Merilya
10-23-2007, 03:16 PM
No chance L2 is based on Unreal 2 Engine. In fact the dx 9.0 option was implemented with C3 as an update to the engine including HDR options (which aren't real HDR..) I'm 99% positive its unreal 1 engine.

Anyways even unreal 2 engine makes more use of CPU than it does of GPU

Judas
10-23-2007, 04:14 PM
Merilya, All unreal engines make HEAVY use of the CPU and GPU....

your 99% positive is 100% WRONG....


it's Unreal 2 engine..

the orginal engine sported DirectX8 only orginally, working around the UT2003 systems.

Later revisions to the engine provided directX 8.1, and further improvements lead to what even more games provide which is baised on the unreal 2 engine @ a maximum of directX9.0c

Even UT2004, when launched, had directx8.1 built in, however a little searching showed the directx9 was also being supported, however in the game it wasn't completed, and the engine DID oventually have it for others to license.


HDR isn't a directX specific feature, it was first developed and then added as an additional feature by ATI, the unreal 2 engine doesn't support it at all really, aside from using cheap tricks to emulate it... which btw, is how nvidia started out support "hdr". Sad way of doing it.

However Pixel/Vertex shaders are supported, and with the launch of CT1, we are saposed to see some pixel/vertex shading happening.... i beleive alot of it has to do with distance/motion blur though. We'll see


"no chance l2 is based on unreal 2 engine" is officially voided.

Themis
10-24-2007, 11:26 AM
get a 8800 gts, 6400 ram (try to get Micron D9 ram chips) atleast 2 gig its cheap, 650i or 680i motherboard, intel dual core, and a good power supply (i recommend ocz or pc power and cooling).

really depends on your budget but that is pretty cheap for a gaming computer

Activezero
10-25-2007, 12:44 AM
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7154/rigyk9.jpg

- Can run a full bot party in pagans

panosp1
10-25-2007, 01:59 AM
http://i23.tinypic.com/21mt72s.jpg

this should help me run more clients right :) now i use Gforce 6600 and 512 ram etc =( this is gonna help huh? just ordered it :D

I have almost the same setup... the RAM is at 800Mhz though and the cpu is dual core 2.6GHZ

I can 3-box easily... 1 client Big window high detail, 2 clients small windows low detail...

Jokqua
10-25-2007, 05:26 AM
Buy a 8800gtx, the performance boost over a 8800gts is pretty big

Try going for a club3d one, as they dont come bundled with 87 shitty games you didnt fucking want to buy in the first place, and as such only costs a tiny bit more than a standard 8800gts

Get some pc6400 ram (800 mhz), crucial ballistix 1gb sticks are a good pick, get 2 gb of ram. Try going for a low CL (4 is good). Dont buy corsair's 6400 1gb CL4 sticks, as these arent clockable.

Get a decent motherboard, nvidias 650's or 680's, or a p35-dsX (where X is 3,4,5, etc) series (id pick the p35). Make sure the mobo has internet so you dont need to have a dedicated pci slot for that.

That 8800gtx needs a decent powersupply, for example are corsair 620W. If you plan to SLI your cards in the future get a bigger one.

The case is personal preference, just make sure to get one that fits your gfx card.


If any of the expressions above are unfamiliar to you you propably shouldnt be building a pc in the first place.
"Yeah, im sure YOU knew everything about this when you were born"
Obviously i didnt, but i read up on it, which is what you should do too before you start fucking your newly bought hardware up

TYRREL_
10-25-2007, 06:48 AM
I already got the stuff so i cant really go buy something else (well i could but),

however, should i get dual core processor? and increasse my comp to around 6 Ghz, what kinda difference will i experience from todays 3 ghz?

Judas
10-25-2007, 10:39 AM
Dual core is going to help alot....