Subclass Skill Tree

[Diego Vargas]

When your subclass is level 75 depending on what arch type it is you will only be able to pick class skills based on that archtype. Eg. If you level a Titan to 75 when you talk to the npc and you "redeem" your subclass for the new bonuses you can only pick from Warrior Passive and trigger skills.

Warrior: Duelist, Grand Khavatari, Dreadnought, Fortune Seeker, Maestro, Titan, Soul Breaker, Berserker
Rogue: Moonlight/Ghost Sentinel, Sagittarius, Wind/Ghost Rider, Adventurer, Arbelestor
Knight: Phoenix Knight, Hell Knight, Shillean/Eva's Templar
Summoner: Arcana Lord, Elemental/Spectral Master
Nuker: Storm Screamer, Mystic Muse, Archmage, Soul Taker
Healer: Cardinal, Eva/Shillen Saint
Buffer: Spectral Dancer, Sword Muse, Heirophant, Doom Cryer, Dominator, Inspector

Source: http://lineage2.plaync.co.kr/updatei...elplus/chap1s2

EDIT 1 - Additionally all Chance skills occur when the player attacks a target, all Counter skills occur when the player gets attacked by others. In both cases the chance/counter effect creates a buff that appears on the players buff bar. The buff is short lived typically around 10-30 seconds depending on what the skill is.

EDIT 2 - Passive and Enhanced Passives are Stackable. L75 Archtype Passives and Trigger skills do not stack.

EDIT 3 - Any skill can be untrained for 10,000,000 adena at the Ivory Tower NPC.

[blahman]

First!

Summoner Subclass (Warlock, Elemental Summoner, Phantom Summmoner)

Boost HP / MP: Increases Max. HP and Max. MP
Increase Elemental Resistance: Elemental attack resistance increased
Counter Spirit: When attacked, chance to increase attack speed and casting speed

Source: http://lineage2.stratics.com/wiki/Ka...our_main_class

So Stratics is wrong and that should be "Power" = M atk ?

[Diego Vargas]

Originally Posted by blahman

First!



Source: http://lineage2.stratics.com/wiki/Ka...our_main_class

So Stratics is wrong and that should be "Power" = M atk ?

The summoner trigger skill is for casters, its matkspd and matk.

[YourNameHere]

k thx. another boost for archers. now they can kill pepole staying invisible for standard client. gf ncsoft.

[Ileth]

does anyone know about percentage on chance and counter skills to trigger?

2 trigger skills do not stack at all??

maybe it is the reason to take "enhanced passives" instead of more counter skills.

What would you suggest for a ST(shillien templar)?

I was thinking of +patt + crit rate and chance crit rate and chance invulneability. All of them are nice, expecially the resist elements......damn...gotta choose subs carefully...

[Tadashi]

Nuker with archer sub suxs!

[fantasy]

and archer with sub nuker? (

[wik]

Originally Posted by fantasy

and archer with sub nuker? (

Not so bad. You can pick MDEF. Something any archer would be glad to have more of for PVP : ) Resist blockade and Vortex ftw.

[fantasy]

it will probably be like 20 mdef more...

[Maya]

I hope lvling pp sub and bish sub will worth it for soultaker class based oly.

[Ileth]

as normal passives and enhanced ones stack maybe it will be quite nice to pick up always the same, like p att 9 times (6 at 65/70 and 3 at 75) to get a significant bonus. Or same thing with crit rate and pick up one or 2 trigger skills (it depends a lot on the main role a player wants).
The thing that the trigger skills do not stack makes me think that they could cancel each other as they take effect, it would be very annoing....
The resists though are very interesting...

baaaahhh....can't decide

[LogOut]

If you have more than 1 65+ subclass, will the chosen passives stack? example: on a first (75) sub I'll take +m.def(lv65 passive) +p.def(lv70 passive) and a class specific passive. Then I take another +m.def(lv65 passive from 2nd sub). Will it stack with the +m.def from my 1st sub? And is it possible to take 1 passive 2 times on the same subclass (for example 2 times +m.def on 65 and 70) to max out the possible defense gain?

Edit: the rogue "long shot" class specific passive is stackable with an archer's long shot? So can I benefit from it on an archer with a dagger sub?

[Nichole]

Diego do you know the ammount of heal done by Counter Self Heal? Is it a % or Fixed? Is the chance high?

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[Guisantito]

Originally Posted by LogOut

Edit: the rogue "long shot" class specific passive is stackable with an archer's long shot? So can I benefit from it on an archer with a dagger sub?

HE 1sub TH 2sub AW 3sub PW all passive long shot
use snipe and atack from giran to aden?

[Goldshlager]

Originally Posted by Diego Vargas

EDIT 1 - Additionally all Chance skills occur when the player attacks a target, all Counter skills occur when the player gets attacked by others. In both cases the chance/counter effect creates a buff that appears on the players buff bar. The buff is short lived typically around 10-30 seconds depending on what the skill is.

Will they ever fucking learn? No one wants a 10-30 second buff if it is going to push something you need for 20 mins.

[Azulenia]

Originally Posted by Guisantito

HE 1sub TH 2sub AW 3sub PW all passive long shot
use snipe and atack from giran to aden?

Originally Posted by Diego Vargas

EDIT 2 - Passive and Enhanced Passives are Stackable. L75 Archtype Passives and Trigger skills do not stack.

hi

[Azulenia]

Originally Posted by Goldshlager

Will they ever fucking learn? No one wants a 10-30 second buff if it is going to push something you need for 20 mins.

i'm definately making a warrior sub for counter haste. its hot.

[Ileth]

in another thread there was a note that to take the "special subclass based skills" you have to get DIFFERENT types of subs. It means that you CANNOT take all special class buffs from warrior choice and so you cannot stack them. Nothing really clear anyway.
In the end it seems that the only passive you can stack are the ones that are the same for all classes p def etcetc while maximum 3 special buffs/skills are available.

imo for a ST I'll get p att x6times crit rate x2 times and chance crit rate.
I like also other skills but stacked skills > occasional utility
I prefare to be reliable. The only other that is very sweet is the counter invulnerability......

also look at this:
Passive and Enhanced Passives are Stackable. L75 Archtype Passives and Trigger skills do not stack.

[Osaka]

Originally Posted by Guisantito

HE 1sub TH 2sub AW 3sub PW all passive long shot
use snipe and atack from giran to aden?

enjoy your private server faggot.

[Osaka]

Originally Posted by Goldshlager

Will they ever fucking learn? No one wants a 10-30 second buff if it is going to push something you need for 20 mins.

my guess is that you'll see several people with counter celestial, chance haste and critical etc. with the new buffs etc it shouldnt be a problem unless your playing with clueless buffers..

[Guisantito]

Originally Posted by Osaka

enjoy your private server faggot.

Teon?

[Osaka]

good fucking luck subbing 3 daggers on one char.

[Mastumoto]

EDIT 2 - Passive and Enhanced Passives are Stackable. L75 Archtype Passives and Trigger skills do not stack.

Ok my question is this.

If you hit 75, you have to choose if you want a passive boost CP if your sub is warrior, but you can't also choose boost M df, and/or P df?

So basically its ether passive skill, or pasive greatter P df/ M df/ P atk/ M atk?

[LogOut]

Yeah, tho I'd go for 3x evasion if it would be possible :P passive UE 24/7 xD

[LogOut]

Originally Posted by Mastumoto

Ok my question is this.

If you hit 75, you have to choose if you want a passive boost CP if your sub is warrior, but you can't also choose boost M df, and/or P df?

So basically its ether passive skill, or pasive greatter P df/ M df/ P atk/ M atk?

You hit 65 on your sub - you can take 1 skill from the list on the left
You hit 70 on your sub - you can take another skill from the left list (they stack)
You hit 75 on your sub - you can take an enhanced passive (center left list - they stack with the 65,70 skills) or a class specific skill (center right skills)
You hit 80 on your sub - you can take a class specific transformation (right list)